only this time, China isnt fighting a bunch of smaller versions of itself

I agree that Japan's done some pretty heinous stuff. Their human experimentation made the Nazi's blush. And they still refuse to apologize for it.

But it's been 75 years now, I think? Pretty close to that. I think it's in the past.

agreed

Not to mention, China is the one constantly demanding apologies. The gall of that is just astounding.

speaking of the vietnamese, i heard that they, along with countries like Laos, Cambodia, and Thailand have been butting heads with the Chinese behind closed doors

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

it was fine the first few years before we rooted out the Japanese Imperial coomers, but now its just kind of annoying

Fun fact, what we know as the Chinese Culture, it's actually *Han* culture. China had a great number of different types of subculture before the Han took over. But once they did, they were absolutely pretentious and constantly bullied their smaller neighbors. When the British Empire came knocking, the Chinese spoke Latin to them. The Brits said "We kind of speak English now."

The Chinese gave them a long and pretty version of the following:
"Be glad we're not forcing you to speak Chinese, it's a sign of our graciousness that we bothered to learn Western language at all. We will accept your silver in return for our products. What can we say except *You're Welcome.*"

That's when the Brits told them to get stuffed and began firing cannons at them.

And then drugged the shit out of them

and then shot at them some more

Point being, the Vietnamese, the Koreans, the Philippines, and *especially* the Japanese have never forgotten what kind of imperialistic pricks the Chinese have always been. They didn't need a communist dictatorship for everyone to hate them, they were hated to begin with.

The Han were pretty good businessmen to begin with but shit militants

It was all the nepotistic backstabbing, I think.
China has enough natural borders that they didn't really need to be worried about being invaded by foreigners. And because of that, the court politics were an absolute nightmare.

i said that the Han (chinese) were shit militants, hence why they were crushed by literally everyone else

and one dumbshit had the gall to say "But what about Sun Tzu?" to me

Fun fact: Sun Tzu served the Kingdom of Wu, who im pretty sure were not the Han

Cao Cao knew wtf he was doing, and he hired the right people for the jobs he had them doing.

shit my asian history isnt that good

Is he a Han Leader?

No, I had *my* history wrong. I had the wrong Kindom of Wu.

hold on lemme look him up

oh shit i got it right

Cao Cao was a Han leader

ooh

oh dear

No, what I'm saying is that I found out, Sun Tzu didn't serve under cao cao.

He served in an entirely different time period.

Hence, wrong Wu.

he served King Ho-Lu

yeah i got it

im just saying that the Cao Cao guy was one of the Han Rulers

the last one actually

Now you've got me reading ancient Chinese history.

have fun trying to untangle that mess

the only thing that is remotely close to similar is trying to track the battles of the Hundred Years war in Europe

Still amazed how human beings behave.
"We're the French. We are Christian."
"We're the British. We are also Christian."
"We're the Spanish. We're Christian turned up to Eleven."
"So, do we wanna fight the Muslims?"
"Naw, let's slaughter each other instead."

Like, I understand it's a lot more complex then that, but dang.

it probably has something to do with the whole, "you have a single aspect of your religion that doesn't align with ours, and so you shall die"

Right, the totalitarian nature of rulership.
"It's not enough for us get along. You need to conform, and let me lead you to your salvation because I know better than you."

wasnt it around this time that who i believe were turks were sacking the Vatican?

I dunno. But I need to go eat dinner. It was nice talking history, I love history.