Message from @Vice President SwagLord

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2021-01-31 16:36:44 UTC  

Exactly what Scientologists say too.

2021-01-31 16:37:15 UTC  

Joseph smith never claimed to be inhabited by jesus, that’s fake news.
We believe he was visited by jesus and god on hill camora in NY

2021-01-31 16:37:42 UTC  

He was visited by angel moroni in his sleep 5 times before that

2021-01-31 16:38:27 UTC  

Then an angel told him that he shall dig up the gold plates in 4 years

2021-01-31 16:38:32 UTC  

Joseph obeyed, and did so

2021-01-31 16:38:42 UTC  

Being that Jesus only came back to talk to his disciples...I kinda find it a little hard to believe he would come back.

2021-01-31 16:38:47 UTC  

But that’s my opinion

2021-01-31 16:39:37 UTC  

Then joseph received the urim and thimmum

2021-01-31 16:39:45 UTC  

and translated the golden plates

2021-01-31 16:39:47 UTC  

to english

2021-01-31 16:39:57 UTC  

and then boom that’s where the book of mormon comes from

2021-01-31 16:40:40 UTC  

Don’t take your sources about us from random people on the internet. That’s like listening to CNN talk about republicans

2021-01-31 16:42:47 UTC  

That would be like me telling everyone here about the furry community and telling you not to listen to other people.... it’s one person out of a whole community

2021-01-31 16:42:59 UTC  

Same thing goes for Christianity.

2021-01-31 16:45:39 UTC  

The “other people” are people who disagree with us

2021-01-31 16:45:44 UTC  

not us

2021-01-31 16:46:44 UTC  

Some furries disagree with each other, different Christian denominations disagree with each other.

2021-01-31 16:46:52 UTC  

Yeah

2021-01-31 16:46:54 UTC  

True

2021-01-31 16:46:57 UTC  

That’s what I was trying to mean, sorry

2021-01-31 16:47:04 UTC  

I see

2021-01-31 16:47:22 UTC  

different christian denominations do indeed disagree with each other

2021-01-31 16:47:38 UTC  

So arguing really doesn’t do anything except bring more hostility

2021-01-31 16:47:54 UTC  

he is a qualified translator? Where are these tablets? Were they tested to see how old they are? Why would golden plates related to a hebrew nation be burried in america?

2021-01-31 16:48:14 UTC  

Don’t go asking those question Mercy

2021-01-31 16:48:27 UTC  

There SO much behind all of it

2021-01-31 16:48:34 UTC  

I mean.
Look at the Ark of the convent, and Noah’s ark. A lot of people ask where those are

2021-01-31 16:48:37 UTC  

Why would they be inscribed on gold rather than stone tablets like in the bible?

2021-01-31 16:48:50 UTC  

Gold is the softest metal so most likely to lose its carvings.

2021-01-31 16:48:51 UTC  

again there’s so much behind it

2021-01-31 16:49:01 UTC  

it’ll take me a long time to explain

2021-01-31 16:49:34 UTC  

"If you cannot explain something simply, you do not fully understand it."

2021-01-31 16:50:09 UTC  

The Ark was lost. Its in the bible, god deemed them not worthy of it anymore.

2021-01-31 16:50:41 UTC  

it even said "In those days when they still had the ark"

2021-01-31 16:54:02 UTC  

I know that.

2021-01-31 16:54:24 UTC  

But still, a lot of people ask where he took it. Because to them, it just seems as “an excuse on why it’s not around”

2021-01-31 17:00:37 UTC  

the gold plates originated in jerusalem in the 600 BC’s or so, they were records of the family of Lehi. Lehi saw a vision in jerusalem around 600 BC. In his vision jerusalem was ransacked and destroyed, and the city was in chaos and turmoil, so he told him, his spouse, and his children (sam, laman, lemuel, and Nephi)
To flee from jerusalem and go to north america, and not bring any of their valuables with them.
Lehi received a compass looking thing from god to show him the way, and god said he would give them instructions.
But then god gave them one more instruction to do in jerusalem, which was to get the golden plates from king laban. Who had the golden plates at the time. Nephi, Laman, Lemuel, and sam all went to do this, Laman and Lemuel constantly loss faith and did stuff and an angel stopped them. It took 3 attempts for them to get the golden plates, when god told Nephi to chop Laban’s head off with his own sword. So they got the golden plates, met a family and a servant of Laban, who they offered to invite on their journey to north america. and then god told them how to build a boat, I won’t get into details cuz that would take hours but once they got to north america they grew and formed a society, the golden plates were passed down from generation to generation, recording wars between the Lamanites (descendants of laman and lemuel) and Nephites (desendants of Nephi and Sam), they fought for a good 600 years in many different conflicts, until the lamanites wiped out the nephites in 400 AD, the last nephite was named “Mormon”, and he wrote the last part of the Book of mormon, then god told him to burry it on hill camora, and prophesied that one day, a foreign civilization led by god will come to north america and wipe out the lamanites by the millions.
about 1100 years later, the lamanites had become the incans and aztecs and stuff, worshipping many false gods, the spanish came and wiped them out by the millions.

2021-01-31 17:00:52 UTC  

that’s a super short summary of the golden plates

2021-01-31 17:02:15 UTC  

and then in the early 1800s Joseph smith dug up the plates from the place where god told him to find it

2021-01-31 17:15:37 UTC  

Thats defys history. America was not discovered until columbus and he only discovered it because he was trying to get to china and break the flat world theory so even HE did not know it was a new contenent yet. Not to mention Columbus only BARELY had ships and technology to get to the new world and that was well after 1000 AD. So the fact they managed to sail a ship across the sea, not financed by a big powerful government, on a distance farther than historically done before AND managed to find it, survive AND that they survived and managed to intigrate into Aztech society is contradictory. If they beleived in god they would not have joined with or made other aztech/inca gods, and if they did they would not have just taken those tablets to a magic place nobody would have found.

2021-01-31 17:16:09 UTC  

Also just because he found said plates does not mean they were true or even that they were Gods.