Message from @Mercy
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What can anyone REALLY know they do not experience for themselves? They cannot. They can only look at the signs and see if it makes sense. God is a logical God, not one of chaos and whims. He left the Bible both as a guideline book and as proof that cannot be refuted by even some of the most historically inclined.
Do I believe that God has I giant spiderweb of plans and contingencies? Yes. But even Jesus was pretty sparing with his Miracles, using debate and argument to sway people more than "making it rain" blessings on people.
In the Bible, a rainbow appearing after the flooding of the earth was considered to be a miracle performed by God. Science now describes the intricacies of a rainbow and why it appears. Is it still a miracle?
It was a not a miracle. God even said it was a Sign.
I am of the belief that our very existence, our conception at birth, is a miracle performed by God.
There are miracles happening all around us, however we live in a world where darkness surrounds us. It blinds us from seeing God’s beauty as we should.
people are giddy to make anything into a miracle, thereby cheapening actual miracles when they do happen.
That is your opinion
There is a difference between the beauty of the universe and miracles.
That is your opinion. You see how that isnt an argument?
It is true that there are more wonders in existance than the human mind ever can or will comprehend in its entire life and the few that are revealed are to be enjoyed. But just because there are infinite amounts of stars on a nights sky does not mean that is a miracle.
There are some more modern examples
I see severe catholic idolotry and gaudy gold and jewel clad statues for people to pray to. It even said they prayed to the saint, not god. God might have spared them but I dont imagine him apreciating them praying to anyone but him.
Mel Gibsons house was amazingly untouched after that forest fire but nobody said it was a miracle. They just said god was protecting it.
Is Mel Gibson a saint then?
That is not how sainthood works
Sainthood was invented by the catholic church, Ive yet to see a biblical verse talking once about sainthood.
That’s untrue. Sainthood existed before Christianity
The book of Enoch
That predates Christianity
A book that the Catholic church recognizes.
But is strangely missing from actual bibles.
The Catholic Church does not at all respect the book of Enoch as the word of God
Or at least does not compel its followers to respect
We all have things to learn my friend
Yeah I dont know anything about the Catholic church aside from they have lots of books in the bible they added.
and their propensity for pretentiousness, ritual and idolatry, historically speaking..
Most religions make alterations to the Bible. However in the Catholic Church it has been aimed to better fit the interpretation from original text.
I do not at all believe however that demonizing a religion that puts faith in the son of man will do any good for God’s plan. But, that is my opinion.
How can one support a corrupt church or speak in its defense and still claim to be for God's plan?
Because sadly, humans work very particularly, as we all know. We require structure in order for institutions/faiths to sustain themselves.
and if the very institution itself is corrupt?
The Catholic Church is the longest lasting religion in Christianity. It has the most room to be criticized, but that does not mean that its existence is to damage the will of God.
But, that said, even Catholics know that the anti-Christ will reign through the power of the Catholic Church.
Which according to private revelation, which I have no interest in compelling you to believe, the anti-Christ is alive and well on his way to the papacy
Does anyone speak taco?
You’re a a bit rude towards Catholicism
I was actually defending it, I myself am Catholic.
But that does not mean that it should not be criticized