Message from @Glowstick

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2021-02-12 03:43:51 UTC  

That's from BBC so pardon me if I don't trust what they say about religion...

2021-02-12 03:43:57 UTC  

lol

2021-02-12 03:44:08 UTC  

It was the first one I found

2021-02-12 03:44:10 UTC  

@HUNTER4639 When we talked about Joseph Smith earlier I forgot to ask a question. You said God chose him cause he was the one deemed fit too. So why was he a polygamist if he was Gods Prophet?

2021-02-12 03:46:13 UTC  

I can't speak for Joseph but he was human like the rest of us.

2021-02-12 03:46:56 UTC  

But polygamy is prohibited nowadays and you will get excommunicated if you do polygamy.

2021-02-12 03:47:23 UTC  

But why wasn’t it prohibited before

2021-02-12 03:47:59 UTC  

One sec

2021-02-12 03:48:38 UTC  

That’s fine take all the time you need

2021-02-12 03:49:52 UTC  

I believe!

2021-02-12 03:50:01 UTC  

@TheChicken789 will come back!

2021-02-12 03:51:03 UTC  

A part of it has to do with the culture of the era.

2021-02-12 03:53:08 UTC  

?

2021-02-12 03:53:57 UTC  

okay back on the topic of God once being like man, all of this was taken from the official church website:
"Lorenzo Snow, the Church’s fifth President, coined a well-known couplet: “As man now is, God once was: As God now is, man may be.” Little has been revealed about the first half of this couplet, and consequently little is taught. When asked about this topic, Church President Gordon B. Hinckley told a reporter in 1997, “That gets into some pretty deep theology that we don’t know very much about.”
and this article (too long to copy and paste here, but it goes a lot more into it): https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1982/02/i-have-a-question/is-president-snows-statement-as-man-now-is-god-once-was-as-god-now-is-man-may-be-accepted-as-official-doctrine?lang=eng

2021-02-12 03:54:25 UTC  

Still doesn’t justify it and in 1850s America polygamy was not ok so it wasn’t the culture either

2021-02-12 03:54:49 UTC  

@Pizzacork okay, so I found this and it explains it better than I can.

"Latter-day Saints believe that the marriage of one man and one woman is the Lord’s standing law of marriage. In biblical times, the Lord commanded some to practice plural marriage—the marriage of one man and more than one woman. By revelation, the Lord commanded Joseph Smith to institute the practice of plural marriage among Church members in the early 1840s."

2021-02-12 03:55:16 UTC  

This is interesting

2021-02-12 03:55:42 UTC  

So y'all believe that normal people can become god

2021-02-12 03:55:48 UTC  

It goes on to say that many faithful members were born as a result. Since the church was so small at the time, it did help create more members and future missionaries. But we do not understand the full intent of the things God asks us to do.

2021-02-12 03:57:12 UTC  

yeah essentially

2021-02-12 03:57:58 UTC  

That is kinda generalizing it though

2021-02-12 03:58:02 UTC  

But with God it would either be morally good or not. There isn’t an in between especially one like polygamy. If God is Omnibenevolent he shouldn’t flip flop on what we should and should not do, it should be a constant moral standard

2021-02-12 03:58:11 UTC  

Do y'all have the same Bible as most Christians

2021-02-12 03:58:34 UTC  

yeah we use the KJV

2021-02-12 03:59:19 UTC  

Also with reproducing I’m sure there was a rise in bachelors as well and there were other ways besides polygamy to expand your numbers

2021-02-12 03:59:31 UTC  

The needs of the times change. God is aware of what is needed at what times because he is an all knowing God.

2021-02-12 03:59:38 UTC  

That's very interesting because I never see evidence that a man can become God due to being good enough I actually see a lot of evidence for the contrary

2021-02-12 04:00:23 UTC  

I'm sure there are, but we do not understand the whole reasoning of why God wanted them to perform polygamy. He knows things that we do not

2021-02-12 04:00:39 UTC  

I need to take the garbage out to the curb brb

2021-02-12 04:00:52 UTC  

aight

2021-02-12 04:00:59 UTC  

interesting, you have examples for that?

2021-02-12 04:01:08 UTC  

Hold up

2021-02-12 04:01:20 UTC  

It'll take a minute

2021-02-12 04:01:28 UTC  

okay

2021-02-12 04:01:43 UTC  

i actually toook a break from working for this so i should proabaly get back to that

2021-02-12 04:02:27 UTC  

alright

2021-02-12 04:02:50 UTC  

But he is also all good. So no matter what you need you should achieve it always through morally good standards and not change them on the situation

2021-02-12 04:08:38 UTC  

Isaiah 45:22
Verse Concepts
“Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth;
For I am God, and there is no other."
Isaiah 46:9 "Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me"

2021-02-12 04:08:54 UTC  

this too

2021-02-12 04:09:05 UTC  

John 10:33, NIV: "We are not stoning you for any good work,' they replied, 'but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.'"

2021-02-12 04:11:25 UTC  

to my understanding, these verses were addressed to man on Earth, and as we are right now not we are indeed not Gods, and for us God is the only God, if that makes sense