Message from @Hummingbird

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2021-02-12 03:35:09 UTC  

Sorry but I won't accept that God was a man before becoming god

2021-02-12 03:35:30 UTC  

Do mormons believe that the only way to heaven is by belief in Jesus Christ and repentance of sins and that you cannot go to heaven by your own strength and good works.

2021-02-12 03:36:05 UTC  

yes, we believe that you must have faith in Christ and repent

2021-02-12 03:36:18 UTC  

God wasn't a man before becoming God....<:What2:777241822930010132>

2021-02-12 03:36:35 UTC  

They believe that God the Father is the all powerful and all knowing supreme being.LDS church believe that God is immortal and that God was once a man.Oct 2, 2009

2021-02-12 03:36:51 UTC  

Alright just wanted to clarify

2021-02-12 03:37:12 UTC  

What do you mean by once a man

2021-02-12 03:37:18 UTC  

I'm not sure what you just quoted from?

2021-02-12 03:38:30 UTC  

Well a lds church member told me this and you can find it online.

2021-02-12 03:39:10 UTC  

I’ve heard that as well

2021-02-12 03:39:28 UTC  

Can you give me a source?? I could literally say that an LDS church member told me anything

2021-02-12 03:39:35 UTC  

With a date

2021-02-12 03:39:39 UTC  

<:What2:777241822930010132>

2021-02-12 03:40:21 UTC  

theres things about that and i dont understand exactly how it is myself

2021-02-12 03:40:55 UTC  

if youre willing to wait a bit ill be able to get an answer to yall about this topic but its a not a short answer

2021-02-12 03:41:13 UTC  

I'm willing to wait

2021-02-12 03:41:31 UTC  

I said and you can find onlime

2021-02-12 03:41:46 UTC  

That doesn't help me

2021-02-12 03:41:48 UTC  

I was lazy to type so I just copied and pasted

2021-02-12 03:42:40 UTC  

I got a link

2021-02-12 03:43:51 UTC  

That's from BBC so pardon me if I don't trust what they say about religion...

2021-02-12 03:43:57 UTC  

lol

2021-02-12 03:44:08 UTC  

It was the first one I found

2021-02-12 03:44:10 UTC  

@HUNTER4639 When we talked about Joseph Smith earlier I forgot to ask a question. You said God chose him cause he was the one deemed fit too. So why was he a polygamist if he was Gods Prophet?

2021-02-12 03:46:13 UTC  

I can't speak for Joseph but he was human like the rest of us.

2021-02-12 03:46:56 UTC  

But polygamy is prohibited nowadays and you will get excommunicated if you do polygamy.

2021-02-12 03:47:23 UTC  

But why wasn’t it prohibited before

2021-02-12 03:47:59 UTC  

One sec

2021-02-12 03:48:38 UTC  

That’s fine take all the time you need

2021-02-12 03:49:52 UTC  

I believe!

2021-02-12 03:50:01 UTC  

@TheChicken789 will come back!

2021-02-12 03:51:03 UTC  

A part of it has to do with the culture of the era.

2021-02-12 03:53:08 UTC  

?

2021-02-12 03:53:57 UTC  

okay back on the topic of God once being like man, all of this was taken from the official church website:
"Lorenzo Snow, the Church’s fifth President, coined a well-known couplet: “As man now is, God once was: As God now is, man may be.” Little has been revealed about the first half of this couplet, and consequently little is taught. When asked about this topic, Church President Gordon B. Hinckley told a reporter in 1997, “That gets into some pretty deep theology that we don’t know very much about.”
and this article (too long to copy and paste here, but it goes a lot more into it): https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1982/02/i-have-a-question/is-president-snows-statement-as-man-now-is-god-once-was-as-god-now-is-man-may-be-accepted-as-official-doctrine?lang=eng

2021-02-12 03:54:25 UTC  

Still doesn’t justify it and in 1850s America polygamy was not ok so it wasn’t the culture either

2021-02-12 03:54:49 UTC  

@Pizzacork okay, so I found this and it explains it better than I can.

"Latter-day Saints believe that the marriage of one man and one woman is the Lord’s standing law of marriage. In biblical times, the Lord commanded some to practice plural marriage—the marriage of one man and more than one woman. By revelation, the Lord commanded Joseph Smith to institute the practice of plural marriage among Church members in the early 1840s."

2021-02-12 03:55:16 UTC  

This is interesting

2021-02-12 03:55:42 UTC  

So y'all believe that normal people can become god

2021-02-12 03:55:48 UTC  

It goes on to say that many faithful members were born as a result. Since the church was so small at the time, it did help create more members and future missionaries. But we do not understand the full intent of the things God asks us to do.

2021-02-12 03:57:12 UTC  

yeah essentially