What's that?

Imma take a wild stab and say the moral of the story of pinocchio is to be honest (don't lie).

Depends on the story, largely. In the case of Pinocchio, it's about raising a child, it seems.

Like, Pinocchio starts as a puppet, right? What is a puppet? Well, it's a crude imitation of a human being.

But it doesn't have any thoughts of its own.

And the conscious (the cricket), when it starts out, is no good because it hasn't learned anything yet. It knows right & wrong, but it doesn't know *why* things are right and why they are wrong.

Nice...queue jiminy cricket.

And eventually he disregards his conscience entirely, and what happens? He starts turning into a jackass.

And he ends up being used by people who don't care about him in the slightest.

Awesome...i like how u tied that in. That last part came out of left field, but it makes sense. <:thinking:726878987837636698>

But despite all that, eventually he begins listening to his conscience again at the last minute, and ends up saving his father from an incredible force of nature.

U just ruined pinocchio for me...but in a good way. 🍻

None of those notes are mine, that all came straight from Jordan B Peterson.

But it explains why it's a bestselling movie, because at some level the human brain is able to see these things, even if it can't put them into words, and that's why you're glued to the screen like a zombie when some masterpiece film like that comes on.

How do I have a relationship with God

Good question. It's hard to explain. It's too much to do tonight, I'm ready to head to bed here pretty quick.

ash Wednesday is on my birthday 😔 😢

when is ash wednesday this year?

17 Feb

well happy early birthday

Oh it's not my birthday, it's Mango Salad's 😅

happy early birthday lol 🎂 🥳 <a:CatDance:726880947726844017>

ty lol

How old, Mango?

I feel like religion was made to give humans more meaning to their life

Cause the purpose for all life is to reproduce but humans are intelligent and desire more so they created religion as a way to live for another purpose

I disagree, I think it was made as a way for humanity to align all the different instincts they have.

If you're an athiest, think of it this way:
You have the circuitry in your brain found in lobsters, back when humans were still at that stage. Then they evolve into fish. But the Lobster circuitry is still there, buried underneath the fish circuitry. Then the fish evolves into a frog, putting frog circuitry on top of the fish/lobster circuitry,

And this keeps progressing.

How do you navigate all the competing instincts you have? Well, I think that religious people were the first behavioral scientists wondering "I know I have urges, but a whole lot of these urges seem to be self-destructive. But we can't just bury them, otherwise we're miserable." And they observed and they watched people behave and they found ways of living that satisfied all the separate systems buried in our psyche.

That's a way to look at it from an atheist perspective.

Personally, I believe there is a God.

Atheist's don't know what Atheist believe in anymore, and there is literal branches of Atheism. Most Atheist can;t prove their arguments anymore using Science, because the latest 100 years of Science has changed radically and drastically to point to Intelligent Design.

And are you going to change their mind with that argument?

I change there mind by asking simple questions that they answer

^A fan of the socratic method, I see.

I think that different groups of Athiests can be defined as whether or not they believe an ideology.

And ideological person will always pursue a way to make the evidence fit their narrative, instead of building a narrative around the evidence.

The younger generation more, geared towards the ages of 15-21, right now, when engaged in discussion in belief of a god or not, more recently end in them stomping away in a discussion, rather than engaging. I hope this is not a trend.

Interesting perspective. I approve the Socratic method.

I mean we live in a age where if someone refutes your points you block them, accuse them of being racist or call them a science denyer and walk away. Is that really such a suprise?

What questions do you ask that change their mind?

Because of the wide variety of beliefs of an Atheist and types of Atheism, I try to figure out what and why they are questioning. I think depending on there answers, one can dig a deeper hole. Not so much changing their mind, but opening up the broader scope of thinking. It's more of getting the wheels to turn.

Some of it stems from a turning point or reason as to why they became an Atheist

Example might be, one person was once Catholic as a child, and they didn't like the church, so they decided to not follow God, so they claimed to be an Atheist, but not so much. they still believe in a "God" but not from a faith base.

Others may actually state they don't believe in God, the Scientific questions and answers may lead around Darwins' Theory of Evolution. More recently (25-40 yrs) scientists have come to adopt that Darwin Theory of Evolution is not practical.