Message from @Pizzacork

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2021-02-17 16:05:23 UTC  

Pentecostal

2021-02-17 16:05:32 UTC  
2021-02-17 16:06:09 UTC  

Oh ok that makes sense I thought it was but the "i" confused me

2021-02-17 16:06:46 UTC  

Yeah it's the short form 😁

2021-02-17 16:07:39 UTC  

Alright, also I'm a Romanian pentecostal. Are you a American pentecostal? @DeButcher

2021-02-17 16:10:56 UTC  

What's the difference?

2021-02-17 16:13:42 UTC  

Just language

2021-02-17 16:15:35 UTC  

What about the Good Samaritan then? The ones with faith turned a blind eye on the helpless man

2021-02-17 16:16:27 UTC  

Faith doesn’t necessarily lead you to do good works

2021-02-17 16:16:49 UTC  

You can be religious with out having faith

2021-02-17 16:16:55 UTC  

What's the purpose of story. Why Jesus bring up this story

2021-02-17 16:17:19 UTC  
2021-02-17 16:18:50 UTC  

He brought it up because someone asked how to tell who his neighbor was and God gave the story showing the one with mercy is your neighbor

2021-02-17 16:20:04 UTC  

And that yes if you believe in God you will go to heaven but you also need to help others

2021-02-17 16:20:12 UTC  

Good so it's not about salvation/ faith but about being a good neighbor. He pointed out the religious leader to show that they are bad example to follow

2021-02-17 16:21:10 UTC  

But the Samaritan was the example even though his views differed

2021-02-17 16:21:11 UTC  

You are not weigh on good/bad scale. Our goodness can never lead us to heaven.

2021-02-17 16:21:47 UTC  

No one is good

2021-02-17 16:22:01 UTC  

No is good only Jesus was

2021-02-17 16:22:04 UTC  

Only Christ

2021-02-17 16:22:32 UTC  

So if I do the most horrific thing like violent rape but believe in God I’ll still go to heaven?

2021-02-17 16:22:33 UTC  

If you say that it's based on work then you are also saying Christ death on the cross was not sufficient @Pizzacork

2021-02-17 16:22:46 UTC  

No

2021-02-17 16:22:47 UTC  

I’m saying it’s both not just faith

2021-02-17 16:23:02 UTC  

So what we do matters and not just our faith

2021-02-17 16:23:13 UTC  

Jesus paid it all.

2021-02-17 16:23:47 UTC  

No, that's abusing his grace,

2021-02-17 16:24:43 UTC  

But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law. Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; aga

2021-02-17 16:24:44 UTC  

Correct but our actions can be good or evil. If I believe in God but still do horrific acts of violence I would go to hell

2021-02-17 16:25:37 UTC  

Bro if you fully accept Jesus then you will follow his commandment.

2021-02-17 16:26:05 UTC  

There are many fake "christian" that say they believe but don't any good

2021-02-17 16:26:29 UTC  

But they may believe Jesus exists and according to you that’s good enough to go to heaven

2021-02-17 16:26:35 UTC  

Follow by Christ example

2021-02-17 16:26:57 UTC  

It's not

2021-02-17 16:27:14 UTC  

Exactly you need to do good

2021-02-17 16:27:15 UTC  

They are fake christian

2021-02-17 16:27:40 UTC  

Look at it like this a criminal in jail on his last few minutes of life before death. He repents and is truly regretting his actions and ask God forgiveness and believes that Jesus chirst did die on the cross and rose from the dead will he be saved or will God not save him?

2021-02-17 16:27:45 UTC  

You need to do good but it's not part of the salvation

2021-02-17 16:28:04 UTC  

Does that make sense

2021-02-17 16:28:20 UTC  

So I can do evil and still go to heaven if I believe in God according to you

2021-02-17 16:28:50 UTC  

If you are doing evil then you are not christian