Message from @Massive Ordnance Penetrator

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2021-02-25 20:49:48 UTC  

Gods knows how everything will turn out as an omnipotent being.

2021-02-25 20:50:02 UTC  

He tells us to trust in Him or to trust in ourselves

2021-02-25 20:50:11 UTC  

Trusting in ourselves will end up in the worst situation.

2021-02-25 20:50:14 UTC  

that makes no sense

2021-02-25 20:50:21 UTC  

I think the only one here who trusts in himself is you.

2021-02-25 20:50:23 UTC  

one one side ur sayin trust him and let him do his work

2021-02-25 20:50:28 UTC  

and then ur sayin u must also do ur part

2021-02-25 20:50:34 UTC  

aight then ima do my part in defending my self

2021-02-25 20:50:41 UTC  

so yes im going to keep a gun

2021-02-25 20:50:51 UTC  

not trusting gun over god

2021-02-25 20:50:53 UTC  

im doing my part

2021-02-25 20:51:16 UTC  

I trust in God and his plan but I also know that he gives us the means to provide and protect ourselves.

2021-02-25 20:51:21 UTC  

I didn't say you couldn't have a gun; I said you must follow the will of God; and God's will is not for you to have something else to protect yourself; God's will could also be that you do not work so that you can do His work

2021-02-25 20:51:25 UTC  

It's all in His plan

2021-02-25 20:51:27 UTC  

There nothing wrong with depending on God. And as Christian we should. But God has given us knowledge

2021-02-25 20:51:46 UTC  

u said that by having a gun you are not trusting that god can protect u

2021-02-25 20:51:54 UTC  

Luke 22:36-38 says two swords (guns). 😉 😉

2021-02-25 20:52:02 UTC  

Yes, because God said that he will protect you.

2021-02-25 20:52:12 UTC  

Having a gun for self-defense*

2021-02-25 20:52:20 UTC  

How do you know that his plan isn't for me to save another follower by killing the evil person who is trying to hurt a child of God.

2021-02-25 20:52:21 UTC  

that makes no sense

2021-02-25 20:52:21 UTC  

A sword has no other purpose than for self defense.

2021-02-25 20:52:40 UTC  

Hunting sports?

2021-02-25 20:52:51 UTC  

That's like saying a gun has no other purpose than to kill

2021-02-25 20:52:57 UTC  

all christians or catholics if they did not fight back in the previous times would've been exterminated

2021-02-25 20:53:00 UTC  

No, a sword has no purpose in hunting sports.

2021-02-25 20:53:13 UTC  

thats why the crusades were important i mean

2021-02-25 20:53:13 UTC  

Much like Sampson protected the Israelites from the Palestinians.

2021-02-25 20:53:14 UTC  

When it's comes to self defense I think you are taking the term literally. It also include protecting other such as your family and friends

2021-02-25 20:53:31 UTC  

Not true the Christians during the time of Nero did not protect themselves, and instead lived on.

2021-02-25 20:53:55 UTC  

it didn't really work well for them tho?

2021-02-25 20:53:57 UTC  

They lived knowing God will protect them

2021-02-25 20:54:01 UTC  

And it worked out fine in the end.

2021-02-25 20:54:02 UTC  

their populations were low as hell

2021-02-25 20:54:08 UTC  

until Constantine the great came along

2021-02-25 20:54:21 UTC  

That's actually not true Christianity was spreading like a wildfire during that period of time

2021-02-25 20:54:30 UTC  

Constantine the great came along and made it encouraged.

2021-02-25 20:54:47 UTC  

That actually stopped the spread, because people outside considered it a "roman religion"

2021-02-25 20:54:52 UTC  

outside of the roman empire*

2021-02-25 20:55:17 UTC  

Persecution makes us stronger, and God will reward us for it.

2021-02-25 20:56:27 UTC  

I think u mean the ones that survived nero lived on...the ones that didn't get tossed to the lions, or lit up as human candles brought us Christianity.