Message from @Лафайэт

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2021-01-19 02:37:28 UTC  

far right is just a synonym for "Bad guy" or "Bully" at this point, just like "fascism"

2021-01-19 02:37:41 UTC  

the meaning of words is meaningless

2021-01-19 02:37:57 UTC  

this is nothign new, people have used fascist as an insult since as early as the 30's or even earlier

2021-01-19 02:38:04 UTC  

its why nobody fucking knows what fascism is

2021-01-19 02:38:26 UTC  

the modern left thinks fascism is just anything totalitarian or authoritarian at all

2021-01-19 02:38:26 UTC  

We probably know more about socialism than the socialists themselves

2021-01-19 02:38:32 UTC  

I really don’t care. Authoritarianism is the same no matter how you slice it

2021-01-19 02:38:54 UTC  

Well yes but actually no

2021-01-19 02:39:13 UTC  

its interesting to see how nat-soc, fascists and marxists all have the same view on "democracy" or "rule of the people", wich ends up being a total dictatorship
1984 Ingsoc type stuff

2021-01-19 02:39:43 UTC  

They want the illusion of democracy

2021-01-19 02:40:21 UTC  

People tend to want a strongman because they’re too scared to govern themselves

2021-01-19 02:40:26 UTC  

Its all socialised control of the economy

2021-01-19 02:40:33 UTC  

to be fair i think democracy is such an overrated emotion-backed stupidity...
Socrates was executed under a vote, and Hitler was elected with a vote too, is democracy really any good? Any minority can be killed under democracy if the majority simply wants to, i dont see whats so good about mob rule

2021-01-19 02:41:26 UTC  

They are all brand of socialism, and the plotting the facists on the opposite side of communists is the most evil way of manipulating the people's discussion of politics

2021-01-19 02:41:28 UTC  

well, in theory they all present this totalitarianism as the "rule of the people"; wether its fascism, marxism... total power of the state = total power of the people. The people are the state, something something.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/789317588130988103/800917817180160050/iu.png

2021-01-19 02:41:41 UTC  

It’s not. Democracy is the best way to oppress the minority under the guise of decency and fairness

2021-01-19 02:42:09 UTC  

Does democracy matter if there is we don't give it the power in the first place?

2021-01-19 02:42:25 UTC  

Or does it even need to exist in a completely free market society

2021-01-19 02:42:27 UTC  

Lol...the State is the State and the people just pick what “flavor” of the state they want

2021-01-19 02:42:47 UTC  

This is what I've believed for a while: authoritarianism is only good when you have a good leader and democracy is only good when people vote for the right stuff. There is a third way: meritocracy. That is the best way.

2021-01-19 02:43:31 UTC  

Meritocracy is dangerous

2021-01-19 02:43:32 UTC  

As much as I hate to say it I think a minarchy could be achievable.

2021-01-19 02:43:34 UTC  

meritocracy? whats that supposed to be? technocracy? well it ends up being as meaningless as "rule of the people" or "dictatorship of the proletariat"
The soviets had a technocracy. Franco's dictatorship had a technocracy in its last 2 decades.

2021-01-19 02:44:14 UTC  

power is not a means, but always an end. At least under monarchic-era rule the power was very limited and the government didnt reach so many facets of life, Private rights were respected and preserved for the most part

2021-01-19 02:45:31 UTC  

Yeah...the rights of the nobility maybe. The Magna Carta was written by rich people. Poor peasants had really no property rights. Everything belonged to the king. You couldn’t even hunt on the kings land

2021-01-19 02:49:22 UTC  

read hoppe

2021-01-19 02:50:21 UTC  

under democratic rule, there has been an unprecedented growth of tax, government spending, inflation, crime rates, illiteracy, etc

2021-01-19 02:50:34 UTC  

I’m not saying democracy is good

2021-01-19 02:50:57 UTC  

But neither is third positionism

2021-01-19 02:51:14 UTC  

It’s authoritarianism under a different label

2021-01-19 02:51:33 UTC  

oh god, you're not one of those guys that thinks a monarchy is just a dictatorship under a different name

2021-01-19 02:51:56 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/789317588130988103/800920451479633930/bastos-monarchy.png

2021-01-19 02:52:12 UTC  

implying that democracy cant be as authoritarian if not more

2021-01-19 02:52:38 UTC  

what is it, a 4 year dictator is ok because 51% of the population voted for a limited range of possibilities on the two-party system with full power ?

2021-01-19 02:52:43 UTC  

merit not technical expertise. Meritocracy and technocracy are not the same. If you could somehow write a perfect, highly specific constitution and make sure the leaders were educated in it and abided by it, or find some other way to determine a leader based on their morals, etc, that's different. Sort of like how China used to be ruled by the principles of confucianism, and the civil service exam ensured all bureaucrats were loyal.

2021-01-19 02:52:46 UTC  

I’m a fucking anarchist. I don’t care about democracy

2021-01-19 02:53:36 UTC  

i dont think china is a good example considering it has always been ruled by huge authoritarian, often cruel regimes... plus people would modify and cheat the "meritocracy" so that it suits their needs, 100% guaranteed

2021-01-19 04:14:59 UTC  

Nooo, black man!