Message from @BigJim
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Whats the deal with Augustus in this server?
You're acting like some sort of slime or sponge. I prod you and you give in insomuch as I apply pressure. That's no fun.
How do I give in?
Whatever. Can you define what "improve life" means?
When you say improve for intelligent sentient beings capable of perceiving physical and emotional pain
Create an environment which minimizes the pain both physical and emotional and maximizes the pleasure both physical and emotional of all people.
I think pleasure is good and pain is bad.
Therefore one should be maximized and the other minimized in society.
You didn't say all people originally.
What did I say?
If I said society I meant human society as in all people.
You said "intelligent sentient beings capable of perceiving physical and emotional pain"
Yes
I think that intelligent animals that can feel pain and pleasure should be treated in a moral/ethical by people.
Why do you think pain is bad so that it has to be reduced (to minimum)?
Pain is a very healthy mechanism.
Not zero
Minimized to the greatest extent possible.
Literal tangent doesnt matter
Minimizing all pain would be basically impossible.
Answer my question
Why do you think pain is bad? Pain is not bad.
Living things are practically wired to not like pain.
Pain worsens their lives and should therefore be abolsihed.
Pain exists to be bad.
That is it's purpose
how old are you
The question is: How old are you?
It's not about liking or disliking it's about being good or bad.
old enough not to think things as simplistic as that
I know you are
I know that you think you are so smart when you try to pretend that pain is a good thing
Pain is good actually
Ok how?
no I don't, it's not a particularly difficult concept to wrap your mind around
It is edifying
An "environment which minimizes pain and maximizes pleasure" is the most morbid thing i can think of. A state of living where people are restrained from natural behaviors and forced into a cuckbox so that they can be Happy™️ , essentially castrating them from pursuing any elevated form of Being.
Natural behaviors consist of rampid murder and rape
I don't care what is natural only what is good
are you are of the concept of anti-fragility chungus