*so true*

yeah but wouldnt it make sense to try to keep it alive

lol

nobody said anything abt permanence

hahahaha

People have empathy which is cool

unbelievable

belieber

empathy isnt and never will be universal

you live in KOOKOO land mate

So do you.

no i live in australia

owned

gods own country

Very cool

Are you a religous one?

no

Ok

So why should we embrace nationalism?

Or tribalism

seeing as it is the default state of existence its probably more appropriate for you to prove why we shouldnt

POV: you ask chungus jim "why"

Because it sows pointless divisions which prevent humanity from reaching the peak of it's capacity to enhance the well being of all people.

wrong

Ok

How?

ingroup preference or tribalism as you call it is a necessary trait in group survival. and seeing as how it will never go away its totally pointless to oppose it, unless you like the idea of being reduced to poverty and oppression for the sake of moral do-gooding

''modernity'' just does a really good job at obfuscating it but of course its still there and is still the driving force behind all politics

Minimization of it's influence can have positive effects.

how

So tribalism has occurred for all of history so it is pointless to oppose it?

and when

yup

So rape and murder has occurred for all of history so it is pointless to oppose it?

theres a *reason* to oppose murder - because it damages the stability of the group. same goes for rape

and it can be effectively reduced

Tribalism can also be effectively reduced.

nope

People are less tribalsitic now than they have been for previous past periods.

People have more empathy for people of different races and nations now than they have for most of history.