You people say "we never will". Perhaps we could if you would just let go.

actually we were flying very high before idiots like you started gaining traction

Who is "we". As in nationalists?

anglo-saxon civilisation as a whole

because nationalism didnt exist prior to 1914. it was the default position

Nationalism was the default position?

its stunning to me how little you know

a fascinating case of the victorian education system

I know

I am just clarifying your view

The fact that nationalism was once the default and is now more questioned shows us that its impact can be minimized.

no are tribes are just larger

yeah i already have conceded the fact that groups can lose their ingroup preference, what you leave out is that the results in the death of the group

Wrong

Yes

It can lead to the death of the group

yeh so why would i ever want that

But that is because tribalists still exist

because of people like you, and its not real, they have empathy for the CONCEPT of of those people

holy fuck

u r trolling idc

How?

roundabout wanker

I honeslty arent trolling.

I said "wrong and yes" as I was replying to an earlier point.

ok if youre being honest tell me to what extent you know history before 1900

hint: i already know what the answer is so be truthful

I like history but am not a historian

Your point is?

So yes I am not at the moment an expert on that age of history.

@BigJim dont dm me any more talk here

sped

ok

@BigJim holy shit i dont care

they are not obviosuly bad

you made that up

no its worse than that

other people made them up FOR YOU

I think they are obviously bad things

and you never fucking questioned it

Yes you are such a free thinker