Message from @Col

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2020-12-31 01:16:23 UTC  

turk

2020-12-31 01:16:28 UTC  

yawn

2020-12-31 01:18:55 UTC  

Marxists have such a weird take. They act exactly as if Marxism was a religion without concrete tenats. It is a lot like paganism like that.

2020-12-31 01:20:00 UTC  

"Of course this goes completely against what Marx and the Marxists of the early 20th century said. It is not like it is compulsive."

2020-12-31 01:20:05 UTC  

wtf does concrete tenets mean

2020-12-31 01:20:20 UTC  

principles

2020-12-31 01:20:27 UTC  

Immutable principles that define its foundation or its outer limits

2020-12-31 01:20:31 UTC  

ok

2020-12-31 01:20:47 UTC  

for example a theist has to believe in God/Gods

2020-12-31 01:20:51 UTC  

bro idek what marxism is at this point

2020-12-31 01:21:10 UTC  

at the same time its enlightenment morality based and at the same time amoral and just descriptive

2020-12-31 01:21:12 UTC  

like

2020-12-31 01:21:15 UTC  

It is a tug of war between bioleninists and traditional marxists

2020-12-31 01:21:26 UTC  

define thise two

2020-12-31 01:21:41 UTC  

like wtf does orthadox marxism even say

2020-12-31 01:21:41 UTC  

well traditional in terms of leninism/stalinism/anticolonialist maoism

2020-12-31 01:21:49 UTC  

im not finna read that niggas books lol

2020-12-31 01:22:35 UTC  

The workers must seize the means of production by killing the capitalists, there is nothing that matters other than material conditions, history is dialectic materialism

2020-12-31 01:22:46 UTC  

that is trad marxist stuff

2020-12-31 01:22:51 UTC  

i just know these atomized ideas that dont really fit like LTV DoP anarchism etc

2020-12-31 01:22:52 UTC  

Dont take spandrell to serious

2020-12-31 01:23:14 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/793519133177675800/794012763231092746/rev-up-those-gas-chambers-cause-hitler-sure-is-hugry_o_5164897.png

2020-12-31 01:23:21 UTC  

who is spandrell

2020-12-31 01:23:30 UTC  

Why? I think he is completely right in his assessment of bioleninism as a kind of force of nature that nessesarily always exists

2020-12-31 01:23:37 UTC  

Bioleninism guy

2020-12-31 01:23:40 UTC  

A writer.

2020-12-31 01:24:02 UTC  

my ol pal Charles was a fascist bro

2020-12-31 01:24:22 UTC  

He's talking about a small chunk of the left

2020-12-31 01:24:23 UTC  

always liked that dude when I was 8

2020-12-31 01:24:37 UTC  

turns out I was justified

2020-12-31 01:24:37 UTC  

i love how the wikipedia article says that marxists watered down the claims of historical materialism and the superstructure-base relationship to the point it was a tricial claim

2020-12-31 01:24:43 UTC  
2020-12-31 01:25:09 UTC  

Well there is hegel and marx's takes on it

2020-12-31 01:25:17 UTC  

Modern bioleninists say things like "I don't care if there are markets or not, our priority should be decolonizing people's thoughts, frameworks, and hirearchy"

2020-12-31 01:25:37 UTC  

I don't think it is a small chunk, nobody would identify as a bioleninist

2020-12-31 01:25:58 UTC  

wtf does decolonize even mean

2020-12-31 01:26:02 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/793519133177675800/794013468335931392/vaush.webm

2020-12-31 01:26:04 UTC  

I think it is more of a catagory of condition, rather then a conscious framework