Message from @akumanozetto

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2021-02-21 13:38:41 UTC  

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2021-02-21 13:38:42 UTC  

This should be simple to understand

2021-02-21 13:38:42 UTC  

and what's wrong with it

2021-02-21 13:38:44 UTC  

explain your point

2021-02-21 13:38:50 UTC  

they could have stored some food maybe

2021-02-21 13:38:56 UTC  

most of industrialisations in the world are fueled by exports revenues

2021-02-21 13:38:58 UTC  

for the dark days

2021-02-21 13:39:02 UTC  

brazil, mexico, iran, turkey

2021-02-21 13:39:04 UTC  

just read history

2021-02-21 13:39:14 UTC  

they could've just not stole all the wheat and artificially forced a mass famine

2021-02-21 13:39:20 UTC  

It exported more to accelerate the import and development of industry, so yes it led to less consumption

2021-02-21 13:39:20 UTC  

wrong

2021-02-21 13:39:23 UTC  

but clearly I am in the wrong here

2021-02-21 13:39:25 UTC  

It was not the same pace

2021-02-21 13:39:35 UTC  

you have no data to back it up

2021-02-21 13:39:41 UTC  

they didnt

2021-02-21 13:39:44 UTC  

as I said USSR had better food security than tsarist russia

2021-02-21 13:39:57 UTC  

ahaha

2021-02-21 13:40:03 UTC  

Not really true

2021-02-21 13:40:07 UTC  

economy tsarist russia is practically anarchy from what i understood

2021-02-21 13:40:13 UTC  

they had private farms

2021-02-21 13:40:16 UTC  

that fed people

2021-02-21 13:40:17 UTC  

that's obviously true, simply USSR eliminated cyclical famines

2021-02-21 13:40:18 UTC  

Both were autarkic but the civil war wrecked productivity

2021-02-21 13:40:29 UTC  

in tsarist russia you had famine every decade or two

2021-02-21 13:40:35 UTC  

tbf the only country that didn't have cyclical famines for a long time was britain

2021-02-21 13:40:37 UTC  

And later collectivization didn't help

2021-02-21 13:40:47 UTC  

USSR had so called holomodor and then ww2

2021-02-21 13:40:53 UTC  

later there was no hunger

2021-02-21 13:40:54 UTC  

that's a fact

2021-02-21 13:40:58 UTC  

Particularly collectivization, because state run farms actually were pretty efficient

2021-02-21 13:41:03 UTC  

Relatively that is

2021-02-21 13:41:05 UTC  

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2021-02-21 13:41:10 UTC  

collectivization was based

2021-02-21 13:41:13 UTC  

huge farms are better than small plots

2021-02-21 13:41:16 UTC  

yes

2021-02-21 13:41:24 UTC  

that is why even western states pursued collectivization

2021-02-21 13:41:26 UTC  

like france

2021-02-21 13:41:39 UTC  

half of french agricultural output is RN from collectivised farms

2021-02-21 13:41:40 UTC  

but the shared ownership concept and detailed plans when to sow and reap were retarded

2021-02-21 13:41:49 UTC  

that was based