Message from @Dentistry
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Gray's BTFO
@BWMiller i'm on the bit about the fermi paradox and this guy only has two exlanations for "human limitations" and I'm assuming he's just choosing to ignore the hilariously obvious one "we can't see the aliens because we don't have any devices capable of detecting them yet"
ufologists btfo
Nah he gets to that
Game theory
what does game theory have to say about the inverse square law and interstellar distances
That's more of the theoretical engineering. He crunches the numbers on how far aliens would get from their starting point if they tried. Game theory suggests that even if they didn't have an insatiable appetite for resources they would still spread out to prevent another possible species who might have an insatiable appetite for species from getting there first
Zoo hypothesis is one suggested answer
But it's not that we can't spot them. It's that they're hiding
wtf
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@BWMiller you're not understanding me. We only barely observed the fact that Proxima Centauri, our closest stellar neighbor even has planets. How can we even possibly detect an alien satellite around their planet?
much less a star further away
Dyson speres would be noticable
not really
Spheres*
maybe on really close stars
Spreading blackness
Also they would be here by now
no they wouldn't you're discounting how vast our galaxy is
ftl is impossible
No your discounting how low we've been around. You're missing the entire point of the video
The universe is like 12-14 byo
we've only been observing planets for the last decade dude
Earth has been around for 4 by
we haven't been observing stars for the last 12-14byo years
Yes but they've had that entire time to spread out
and they probably haven't gotten here yet
because of the vastness
Planets have been around for billions of years
Even light speed isn't an impediment on that time scale
look that's true, but the stars that formed in the early galaxy are different from the ones that formed in the one we have now
it probably took billions of years for habitable planets to form
Yes but earth like planets have been around for billions of years
there could be a hilariously vast stellar system all around us and we just can't see them because we literally have no means of seeing them past like proxima centauri
they could have a billion space ships in proxima centauri and we wouldn't be able to observe them
But they would be here by now. In the video he says how many galaxies would have to be devoid of life for them not to be here by now
they could have checked up on us a billion years ago and found no traces of life
and then went on not to care forever