Sometimes the myth is greater than the actual

I'd agree to an extent. What way are you meaning in this context? @Belisarius

@chris#0919 dang, you sound just like the leftists.

Like the myth of christ (lol im joking lad)

Not myth as incorrect, myth as in occultism

@Thomas Morrow i mean in the sense that there has been a great deal of progress in the study of ethnicity, past migrations, peoples and time periods. we know a great deal more now than the german scientists of the 1930-40's did. refusing any other kind of science that comes after what the germans knew then is pretty foolish.

@chris#0919 changing the wording does not change the subject material. a myth is a lie, occultism is a lie.

I agree. How is that relevant to the conversation we were having beforehand?

aren't nationalist socialists for the One Truth™ ?

One truth?

eternal truth, whatever its called.

@Thomas Morrow it has to do with the conversation on facism and nationalist socialism, i mentioned that collectivism is cancer and the nazi's were flawed in their views on race.

I genuinely don't know what you're talking about. I agree with the program of the nsdap

And they were nationalists to the point of the race being the nation

I believe you may be misinformed

We were speaking of fascism not having anything to do with race

And I wouldn't say national socialism is collectivist.

You should take care of your own. Individualism is cancer

Or at least it isn't strictly collectivist

There's still private property etc

there was a literal conversation going on about both ideologies views on race, noone bothered to tell me i was wrong about collectivism being cancer so only the point about race has been talked about.

the government does not have to be the middleman for improvements to the everyday life of the people. the government does not have to be your babysitter, making sure you are fed, providing you with transportation or education. once you let a government start the process of collectivisation it won't stop, it will get more and more intrusive and burdening to everyone. it is completely unnecessary.

Have you ever read the program of the nsdap?

@Belisarius

Because I believe you to be grossly misinformed

the 25 point one?

i'm not a natsoc historian.

Let me see what I can dig up for you, sir

I have a few pdfs somewhere

you keep on claiming to believe that i am "misinformed", what am i "misinformed" on?

that's not an argument.

Because I don't have time to break down the entire political system for you. I mean no offense and if you'd like I can give you material to read

i never asked you to.

i never said "the nationalist socialists are wrong on everything!"

Well I'd just about have to judging by your knowledge on the subject

what am i saying that proves me to be "uninformed"?

The Nazi's racial theory was based off the American book "The Passing of the Great Race" which was a joke when it first came out. But its massive aggrandizement of the German and Nordic races cause the Nazi's delusions of grandeur to sweep it up. The only ther major figure, besides Htiler who called it his personal Bible, who loved the book was Margret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood.

where am i lacking knowledge in my statements?

what have i said that reveals my lack of knowledge on the subject?

I think you don't understand their welfare program for one

I wasn't talking about the Nationalist Socialists in particular, i was talking about collectivism as a... collective (kek).

I don't think anyone was arguing for collectivism as a whole, At least not in the way you were speaking about it.