no calories for days

5 days was my longest stretch without eating absolutely any calories at all

and that's how you're going to have to do it if you want to preserve lean mass

it's counter intuitive

but when you're fasting your body goes into this "fasted state" where it's releasing tons of adrenaline and HGH

you become crazy alert

Oh I gotcha, ya I'd be really worried about muscle wasting. I'd be interested to see any before/after pics if you have them but muscle takes a tremendous amount of energy and effort to maintain

like you're body is making a last ditch effort to struggle to find food before it starves to death

here's the thing

I've done a lot of reading into this

and the literature states that caloric restriction convinces your body that you've found a reliable food source, but it's poor, so it "winds down" to adjust to it

meaning it diminishes unecessary tissues in order to facilitate long-term survival

one of the first things to go is excess muscle mass

because it's expensive

Heading out door to work, not ignoring but my response rate is about to tank, sorry 😅

that's why guys who cut always see a reduction in muscle mass

it's all good

fasting, when done right, results in no muscle loss. Why would your body burn perfectly healthy tissue when it has fat sitting right next to it? The only situation in which that's a good idea is if it thinks it's going to survive long enough to possibly use that fat in a REAL survival setting, not in a setting with a poor source of nutrition, such as dieting or "cutting"

I know it sounds like bro science but it's legit

I've seen it in my own experience

and no I don't have before and afters, sadly

@Glacier333 ive heard fake suger is just as bad as aspertine

@Orchid So I've been meaning to check out Jocko's podcast for a while now, he's about the only one of the "group" (JRE, Tim Ferris, Sam Harris, etc..) that I don't listen to yet every week. Holy fuck man, what an introduction that was. Thanks a lot for posting that, it gave me a good reason to start listening to him. I liked him already from his guest appearances on the other's shows but I had no idea how good his show was on it's own. Much appreciated.