Message from @Roman Dreams

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2017-10-19 20:28:50 UTC  

you can post them all here anytime

2017-10-19 22:23:14 UTC  

@User Not really, I‘ve only read the first chapter. I hope I‘m going to have time to read all of it soon.

2017-10-19 22:25:44 UTC  

1984 is definitely also necessary to read. I also read Animal Farm first. mostly because of its slim size, though I've had to reread it many times because of that same reason.

2017-10-20 02:44:36 UTC  

@P14 Have you read Spengler's Decline of the West yet?

2017-10-20 02:44:55 UTC  

I was discussing it earlier, and am hoping to find those who have already read it here.

2017-10-20 06:55:37 UTC  

@User No, I haven‘t.

2017-10-20 15:48:57 UTC  

Don't have a list made up at the moment. This channel has a lot of reccomendations, but I want to organize them under topics.

2017-10-20 19:11:42 UTC  

Ok. I'll make sure to add to the list.

2017-10-20 19:45:42 UTC  

There is this list @Polak

Plato (Euthyphro, Apology, Crito, Phaedo)
Aristotle (a selection)
Thomas Aquinas - Summa Theologica
Niccolo Machiavelli - The Prince
Thomas Hobbes - Leviathan
Jean Jacques Rousseau - The Social Contract
Adam Smith - Wealth of Nations
Thomas Paine - Common Sense
John Stuart Mill - On Liberty
Hegel - The Philosophy of Right
Friedrich Nietzsche - On the Genealogy of Morality
Karl Marx - Das Kapital
Adolf Hitler - Mein Kampf
George Orwell - Animal Farm & 1984
John Rawls - A theory of justice

2017-10-20 19:46:08 UTC  

Only philosophy though.

2017-10-20 22:12:23 UTC  

i like the /lit/ document

2017-10-20 23:22:57 UTC  

https://wrathoftheawakenedsaxon.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/revolt-against-the-modern-world-julius-evola.pdf

A great right wing Italian philosopher, here he writes about traditionalism and the importance of it. He coined the phrase "Revolt against the modern world" with this book of the same title.

2017-10-20 23:53:52 UTC  

https://youtu.be/Z7Gc1bv-Mj4

An interesting video, that isn't very long, and mentions a book I think we would appreciate. I haven't found it online yet (also haven't bothered to look yet,) but I'll post it here if I find it.

2017-10-21 06:47:22 UTC  

@P14 Thanks for the recommendations. Those are a lot of good books on philosophy to start with.

2017-10-21 18:24:25 UTC  

@Lorenzo empires last for much longer than 250 years

2017-10-21 18:26:36 UTC  

the reason Rome fell was for a complex amount of reasons. It's amazing it lasted for so long, there was constant fighting in a change of power. Generals after winning battles would use their army to overthrow the emperor

2017-10-21 18:26:50 UTC  

plus they had a plague that was weakening their borders

2017-10-21 18:27:50 UTC  

but the economic inequality is incredibly true

2017-10-21 18:51:21 UTC  

@Roman Dreams I don't defend the opinion of the video/author I posted. I only posted it to share stuff. I think the 250 year thing isn't a limit, but an average for most empires.

2017-10-21 18:56:14 UTC  

could be a peek golden year

2017-10-21 19:06:24 UTC  

History moves alot faster today than it did 2000 years ago, so I'm not sure it even makes sense to measure the life-span of empires in years, or even try to find some consistent life-span.

2017-10-21 19:06:46 UTC  

but the paralells between America and the Roman Empire are significant

2017-10-21 19:10:25 UTC  

I don't think so, America is much more complex and stable

2017-10-21 19:10:50 UTC  

but wealth inequality and social degeneracy are concerning

2017-10-21 23:41:25 UTC  

@wizzy The guy who made that document calls himself a marxist. However, I've read through the document before, and it doesn't look bad. Very good material and chronology for introductory philosophy.

2017-10-21 23:42:13 UTC  

As someone that already has somewhat of an undergraduate-level understanding of philosophy, there was still a lot of useful knowledge (there is other good information too, such as which publishers to avoid when purchasing books and why).

2017-10-22 00:01:07 UTC  

Has anyone else read through the /lit/ philosophy document?

2017-10-22 00:52:21 UTC  

I haven't

2017-10-22 00:52:27 UTC  

Is it good?

2017-10-22 03:26:24 UTC  

A very useful book I've found myself using is "How to Read a Book" (by Mortimer Adley).

2017-10-22 03:38:52 UTC  

Here's it is for anyone interested (if you want another format, ask)

2017-10-22 03:39:49 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/359486648368627713/371502881607516170/Mortimer_J._Adler_Charles_Van_Doren_How_to_Read_a_Book.epub

2017-10-22 17:16:08 UTC  

Socrates views on borders and citizenship (he was the first CUCK of the West) :
https://agora.stanford.edu/agora/libArticles2/brown/brown.pdf

2017-10-22 20:19:37 UTC  

We've had some discussion in <#362535345146953728> on making a list for reading. We need a service that allows members of this service to add and sort books by subject.

2017-10-22 20:22:40 UTC  

This should allow room for some chronology of books (like understanding different types of political ideas) and notes to guide people unfamiliar with those topics. The google document above is what may serve as a source of ideas for how to do this sort of organizing, I suppose.

2017-10-23 21:18:25 UTC  

The wanting seed is about an over populated world and the fall out because of it.

2017-10-23 21:19:06 UTC  

Homosexuality is publicly practiced by everyone since the state enforces it to limit the population

2017-10-23 21:19:13 UTC  

privately people are still heterosexual