I see them as slot machines since a key costs about 1 euro and the boxes range in price, but you can end up with some pretty big "wins"

ok

see, i was misunderstanding you

If they are mated with microtrasactions, they are close to gambling. If money can be made off of the contents, it's certainly gambling.

in csgo there are actual 3rd party odds based vegas styled gambling sites

I've deleted the petition

Well, the link.

i would support the banning of loot box style play in games not rated M/PEGI 18

I have a couple dogs in this fight, but my only real issue is the way it's presented and subversively implemented in games that younger kids play.

yes, there i agree

granted i am of the belief that targeting children through marketing is fairly slimy

The petition wasn't targetting CS:GO specifically.

god only knows how much of my college fund was spent on gi joes and mutant turtles

Anyway, I'm going to go read. I have a bunch of new books to read.

I have issues with them being in full priced games as well, but not on the same grounds, it's value issue there.

games have gotten p. bad

i still find it hard to support more regulation of any kind

you're never getting that power back

2013-14 was the beginning of bad games

Regulation should exist to prevent predatory or fraudulent behavior, that's about it.

The question is whether these practices are predatory.

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we have a jew in our midst!

thank god, i need financial advice

crypto is your answer!

i feel like before i could do more than dabble in the invisible fake money as opposed to the paper fake money, i would need to see proof of someone taking paper money, investing in crypto, then ending up with a paper money profit

i bought my car with bitcoin, does that count?

with bitcoin raw, at a dealship?

from a guy selling his car

asked him if hed take bitcoin

he said fuck yea ill take bitcoin

sold

yeah

also i pay for all my food delivereis with bitcoin

if you dont mind my asking a personal question, what is the most btc you've ever converted back into physical currency, be it usd/euro/yen/whatever

the biggest food delivery service in poland takes bitcoin

i paid 3 btc for the car

that was when they were like 1200 dollars a piece

car was 4k, but he was happy to take a dip on the price for getting crypto

i do the same, i give people 15% off on my services if they pay crypto

but converting back into real money