Message from @Scooter2000
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There is no salvation outside of the Catholic Church
Just who can be said to be in the confines of the Church is an open question
But what do you mean by that
Obviously a non catholic who walks into a Catholic Church wouldn’t be considered Catholic
Like is an Eastern Orthodox person who has no problem with the Pope in the Church? Is an unbaptized Catechumen part of the Church?
I unno. They might be
I have no problem with the pope
yeah but your Anglican right?
Yes
Too many heretical doctrines
no valid sacraments outside baptism
That’s not true for all Anglican church’s
High church does Eucharist
yeah but they don't have a valid mass because their orders aren't valid
The other things that you might call sacraments are practiced but aren’t allowed to call them sacraments officially
Why are Orthodox orders valid?
Cause they have the correct formula and intention
Anglicans don't have the correct formula
I’m not as into this issue they you can you explain further what’s the problem with formula/intent
*The principal objection to validity of Anglican ordinations, according to Leo XIII, was the alleged deficiency of intention and of form of the Anglican ordination rites. Leo XIII declared that the rites expressed an intention to create a priesthood different from the sacrificing priesthood of the Roman Catholic Church and to reduce ordination to a mere ecclesiastical institution, an appointment or blessing, instead of a sacramental conferral of actual grace by the action itself.*
In brief
I will thanks
@Metaphysical Monarchist http://www.traditionalcatholic.net/Tradition/Prayer/Tridentine_Creed.html
If you can read this without wincing you can be a Catholic
That all seems fine
Do I have to re it’s that in the church on baptism?
what
Recite
what does that mean
Read aloud
are you asking if you have to recite the tridentine creed when you get baptised in the catholic church?
Yes
Or do they accept my baptism and I just need confirmation
no you recite the nicene
but there is 4 creeds the Catholic Church uses that and the Athanasian creed is what people normally have problems with
if you were baptised in an Anglican Church you have a valid baptism
What problems I see nothing objectionable if your a true believer
big brained in here
always
gotta defend the faith
G**gle is satanic don't let their lies deceive you