Message from @Evropa Beagle

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2018-10-14 00:01:52 UTC  

It looks good on paper but if it's in conjunction with capitalism the current state kf affairs would be the same, you can buy votes with bribes if need be when there's fewer people voting in the really important elections

2018-10-14 00:02:09 UTC  

The ultimate question is from where does the power derive

2018-10-14 00:02:34 UTC  

Who holds the purse and sword, and how to they hang onto them

2018-10-14 00:03:40 UTC  

In the simplest example, a gang lord, has property, industry and wealth of his own to pay for men of his own to execute his own will

2018-10-14 00:05:08 UTC  

In a democracy, the military is paid by the exchequer, which draws money from mass taxation, which is sold and repackaged by politicians to voters, and the media makes those politicians electable

2018-10-14 00:05:36 UTC  

So no power rests in the hands of politicians who aren't independently wealthy in a democracy

2018-10-14 00:06:42 UTC  

I think one of the benefits of this approach is that you can have a personal relationship. If you see ads telling you to vote out Joe but you know Joe personally you've got more information. Also it's harder for money to corrupt when it needs to influence many different elections to influence the top

2018-10-14 00:07:12 UTC  

If concentric circles of voting takes place, not to say it's a bad idea, it's not, and has many historical precedents, the issue you run up against is fracturing of the national power structure

2018-10-14 00:07:46 UTC  

If there's a centralised military there's a centralised government and centralised power

2018-10-14 00:08:13 UTC  

That might be more of a feature than a bug. Absolutist states replacing feudalism preceded liberalism by placing everything into one large pot that could be taken over by subversive elements

2018-10-14 00:08:29 UTC  

Well there's your answer

2018-10-14 00:08:36 UTC  

You're a reactionary

2018-10-14 00:08:40 UTC  

I am

2018-10-14 00:08:51 UTC  

Neoreactionary is the label I choose

2018-10-14 00:09:16 UTC  

So what you propose is a mechanism by which the goals associated with that can be achieved

2018-10-14 00:09:29 UTC  

Which is broadly speaking what Dugin writes about

2018-10-14 00:09:37 UTC  

So I'd recommend reading his works

2018-10-14 00:09:46 UTC  

I'll add it to the list

2018-10-14 00:10:20 UTC  

Another term for what I'm attempting might be democratic feudalism

2018-10-14 00:11:30 UTC  

Since the vassals can vote out their lieges. But I don't want that to be done by a simple majority. In practice if a Lord lost the support of his vassals he may not be a Lord for long, but this is a more bloodless way by having the support be formalized

2018-10-14 01:31:57 UTC  

I aprove too

2018-10-14 02:12:31 UTC  

I don't know a lot about what you were talking about but at a glance the idea of smaller groups electing a member to a higher position somewhat resembles how senators were elected before the 17th amendment when state legislatures would elect senators. Or am I misunderstanding? @BWMiller

2018-10-14 02:13:34 UTC  

That's somewhat to the point, but I'm thinking the groups would be much smaller and the hierarchy larger

2018-10-14 02:15:15 UTC  

Right, the state legislature was straight from the people still so it's not quite there. I'll look into it more

2018-10-14 02:27:15 UTC  

lol

2018-10-14 02:28:05 UTC  

Why'd you have to shid on em

2018-10-14 02:28:15 UTC  

Cringe and bluepilled

2018-10-14 02:28:21 UTC  

lol

2018-10-14 02:28:29 UTC  

too easy

2018-10-14 02:28:55 UTC  

Hello epic department

2018-10-14 02:28:59 UTC  

Despacito

2018-10-14 02:29:49 UTC  

Don is uber gay

2018-10-14 02:30:31 UTC  

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2018-10-14 02:31:40 UTC  

Don is a boomer

2018-10-14 02:31:50 UTC  

They have different standards

2018-10-14 02:32:10 UTC  

coomer

2018-10-14 21:09:04 UTC  

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2018-10-15 00:09:44 UTC  

oh my.....

2018-10-15 03:47:57 UTC  

A wh*toid subhuman was trying to """banter""" an alpha KARA BOGA demigod.
The perfidious, uncultured cum skinned individual asked:
"Hey nigger, do you know why the palm of your hands is white?"
"No. Tell me".
"Because you were on all fours when God threw paint at you!".
The whitoid laughed nervously as the black man remained stoic and impassible. When he stopped laughing, the muscular, pyramid builder African elite man asked:
"And you, white brother. Do you know why your ass crack is black?".
"N-no... Why?".
"Because I was fresh-painted when I ass raped you".
The white "man" turned red. He was speechless. He finally realised KARA BOGA would always be at a higher level of consciousness than him, a pig skinned homunculus. He returned to his house to find consolation in his wife's embracement.
But what he actually found was a KARA BOGA "painting" his wife's privates.
He killed himself later that day.