Message from @Say

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2019-11-10 22:54:01 UTC  

Only first

2019-11-10 22:54:05 UTC  

ahk

2019-11-10 22:54:20 UTC  
2019-11-10 22:54:25 UTC  

Explain this please

2019-11-10 22:54:43 UTC  

@Say are you trying to say that just because one's life may not be compromised, that it's not harm? Like isn't, as you said, paralysis a form of harm?

2019-11-10 22:55:16 UTC  

That's why I specified life threatening

2019-11-10 22:55:24 UTC  

Or else, we should be crying over a flu

2019-11-10 22:55:28 UTC  

Running the **incredibly** low risk of paralysis is better than not being vaccinated and contracting a disease

2019-11-10 22:55:59 UTC  

@Say so, your position is.....is that it's OK!to harm people as long as you don't kill!them?

2019-11-10 22:56:12 UTC  

This guy.

2019-11-10 22:56:13 UTC  

o-o

2019-11-10 22:56:19 UTC  

No, there’s a risk/reward associated with this

2019-11-10 22:56:46 UTC  

You give them something that would prevent them from something worse

2019-11-10 22:56:49 UTC  

@Say well, that really didn't answer the question. Is it OK to harm people as long as you don't kill them?

2019-11-10 22:57:03 UTC  

You run the **incredibly** low risk of being temporarily paralyzed (more than 1 in 10,000,000) and you dont die from the flu or mumps or measles

2019-11-10 22:57:35 UTC  

I dont think you understand how deadly these diseases are

2019-11-10 22:58:11 UTC  

More people died from the flu in the ww2 era than from the holocaust and war combined

2019-11-10 22:58:43 UTC  

@Say well the last half of that sentence could be argued, but that's not the point. I'm trying to clear up your position about harm. So, could you please answer the question with clarity.....is it OK to harm people as long as you don't kill them?

2019-11-10 22:59:44 UTC  

It’s okay to run the **incredibly** low risk of harming someone if it means you prevent them from contracting the flu, mumps, measles, rubella, etc.

2019-11-10 22:59:50 UTC  

That is my position

2019-11-10 23:00:09 UTC  

Sort of like Russian roulette?

2019-11-10 23:00:31 UTC  

But with a gun with a really large cartridge?

2019-11-10 23:00:43 UTC  

Sort of like Russian roulette except there’s 100,000,000 slots and only one of those is filled with a nerf bullet

2019-11-10 23:01:26 UTC  

Nerf bullet? Can a nerf bullet kill? Because you DID say that vaccines can kill, right?

2019-11-10 23:01:54 UTC  

Sure, but we don’t usually give vaccines to those people

2019-11-10 23:02:03 UTC  

How do you know?

2019-11-10 23:02:09 UTC  

Because I’m a doctor

2019-11-10 23:02:25 UTC  

You don’t give vaccines to people with bad immune systems

2019-11-10 23:02:41 UTC  

Do doctors usually say something then immediately modify their answers when prodded?

2019-11-10 23:02:55 UTC  

It’s called nuance

2019-11-10 23:03:17 UTC  

Sounds like moving the goals posts to me,.

2019-11-10 23:03:36 UTC  

Ik you don’t like that i wont answer your questions with a yes or no, but reality is usually shades of gray, not black and white

2019-11-10 23:03:54 UTC  

Aren't people with bad immune systems precisely the people who need to be protected with vaccines?

2019-11-10 23:04:56 UTC  

Arent people with strong immune systems capable of fighting off diseases? Or, does every disease have a 100% kill rate?

2019-11-10 23:06:17 UTC  

Vaccines are usually made up of a weakened or dead form of the virus. Our body then creates antibodies to fight off the disease. Even people with strong immune systems are worse off than people with antibodies for a disease

2019-11-10 23:06:56 UTC  

People with a bad immune system have a greater chance of not forming antibodies to the weakened form of the disease

2019-11-10 23:07:33 UTC  

So, does every disease have a 100% kill rate?

2019-11-10 23:07:46 UTC  

No..?

2019-11-10 23:08:19 UTC  

So, it's possible for people to survive an infection without being vaccinated?

2019-11-10 23:08:50 UTC  

I mean....people survived infections before vaccinations, right?