yes they were

They were. Liberals as we know them today are "neo-liberal"

Liberal then and now are two entirely different ideologies

Certainly restrained compared to most shitlibs today

<@268903443429720065> You need to mute your mike

<@268903443429720065> t. brainlet

The founding fathers are archetypical liberals

Chechen is going to vet you, it's a short 10-20 minute conversation.

1776 liberal =/= 2017 liberal

1776 liberal would be considered right-wing libertarian today

The basis of liberalism is the pursuit of some form of liberty and equality

and while the founding fathers didnt take things to the laughable extent that they are today

e.g. niggers being equal to humans

They did have egalitarian principles.

this

Only to a reasonable degree though.

their worldview was fundamentally liberal

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Even the modern Libertarian party has been hijacked by neo-liberal pinko pukes.

Gary Johnson got super triggered when someone used the term "illegal immigrants."

Rose, are you available for this vetting?

I wondered why the libertarian party got so pozzed

This will require you to respond.

most shitlibertarians I knew were never as gay as the ones we hear about today

I will vet you in a minute

they used to celebrate killing cops

I used to consider myself libertarian until I realized that the private sector seems to be just as bad about social engineering as a leftist government.

Keep the gladiators fighting

and now they get butthurt over opposition totransgender bathrooms

Case in point: Google.

What really helped me grow out of libertarianism was the realization was that I hated the government because it was shit

not because government is inherently shitty

If a private entity becomes too powerful, it becomes a de facto government

that too

<@268903443429720065> un mute yourself

the problem with democracy is that it enables the worst people to gain power

i hate nazis

@Greg88 REEEEEEEEEEE

@Muh Liberty

Democracy - Oppression of the 51%