Message from @Dear Mason

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2019-11-06 03:00:11 UTC  

the correct moral system? I have no idea. But the fact I don't know doesn't mean there isn't a correct one.

2019-11-06 03:00:22 UTC  

Just like the fact I don't know if there is a God doesn't mean there isn't one

2019-11-06 03:00:55 UTC  

That's like asking "who decides the chair is red?"

2019-11-06 03:01:00 UTC  

Well.... That's a good question

2019-11-06 03:01:04 UTC  

I have no idea lol

2019-11-06 03:01:25 UTC  

Well that's what this all boils down to in the end

2019-11-06 03:01:42 UTC  

It's a question I want to know to know the answer too

2019-11-06 03:01:54 UTC  

yeah I was just trying to get across the fact cultures seem to have different moral beliefs doesn't say anything about the truth values of those beliefs

2019-11-06 03:02:31 UTC  

It's true cultures do have different beliefs, but that doesn't mean there doesn't exist a list in heaven of morally right and wrong actions

2019-11-06 03:02:45 UTC  

just like there's a list of prime numbers

2019-11-06 03:02:48 UTC  

Or red chairs

2019-11-06 03:02:51 UTC  

The most logical of course would be the "laws of logic" like allowing murder without punishment wouldn't help a country grow but have it collapse under itself

2019-11-06 03:03:18 UTC  

Well if you follow the "laws of logic" usually you derive some axioms you deem necessary

2019-11-06 03:03:26 UTC  

For a ultitarian is the concept of utility

2019-11-06 03:03:35 UTC  

For Kant it was the categorical imperative

2019-11-06 03:04:06 UTC  

Kant in particular would probably interest you because he thought you could derive morality purely logically

2019-11-06 03:04:13 UTC  

So a moral logical being would be more moral

2019-11-06 03:04:42 UTC  

Sure

2019-11-06 03:05:02 UTC  

An interesting practical case for this; if kantianism is true and we developed an General AI smarter than us we need not worry because it would be much more intelligent than us

2019-11-06 03:05:12 UTC  

and therefore much more moral

2019-11-06 03:05:50 UTC  

Well that's a different story in my book on that

2019-11-06 03:05:58 UTC  

But it is an interesting thing to think about

2019-11-06 03:10:57 UTC  

false equivalency between intelligence and morality

2019-11-06 03:11:51 UTC  

^

2019-11-06 03:12:11 UTC  

it does not follow

2019-11-06 03:27:43 UTC  

Thats the idea of kantianism; that it does follow

2019-11-06 17:37:14 UTC  

hey guys

2019-11-06 21:01:05 UTC  

Hello

2019-11-06 21:15:08 UTC  

Ok so I'm kind of the fence the shape of the earth and I wondered if any Flat Earthers could give me their arguments

2019-11-06 21:16:29 UTC  

@NinjaApple sight distances.

Such as lighthouses.

If earth was a 24900 mile ball, lighthouses wouldn't work.

Its that simple

2019-11-06 21:19:44 UTC  

Would the curve of the earth really be visible from a lighthouse @Citizen Z ?

2019-11-06 21:20:45 UTC  

Thats not what im saying

2019-11-06 21:21:19 UTC  

Oh

2019-11-06 21:21:23 UTC  

Im saying.

If earth curved...lighthouses wouldn't be seen from as far away as they are seen due to curvature blocking the light

2019-11-06 21:21:46 UTC  

Fair enough

2019-11-06 21:21:54 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/641749122877095946/20190907_190325.jpg

2019-11-06 21:22:12 UTC  

The bulge in the middle would block the light

2019-11-06 21:22:30 UTC  

At a certain distance

2019-11-06 21:23:32 UTC  

Depending on lighthouse elevation, observers elevation and the distance between them

2019-11-06 21:24:21 UTC  

Ah

2019-11-06 21:29:52 UTC  

I believe the reasoning is because light from a lighthouse spreads and part of the spread travels upwards.People can see the light from a lighthouse even with the actual spotlight being obscured.