Perhaps so

Modern science doesn't seem to like intelligent design.

No, but that's because science seeks to explain natural phenomenon scientifically. Anything supernatural is, by definition, out of the realm of science.

I always thought sentience/intelligence on our level is like a spark, a flame. Dolphins have huge brains, but that doesn't make intelligence.

It's just a quality so rare.

It is a very special trait.

I like to explore the metaphysical because it's a new frontier.

Something that isn't cut and dry.

No

Why

You should learn about it yourself then ask questions after learning a bit

We have a fighting the globe category

Go look at it

Then ask questions

Modern science would only disagree with being able to evaluate the conclusions of intelligent design. It can however decrease confidence in certain premises which lead to the conclusion of intelligent design.

for example, a ID believer may say "well these certain proteins have no way of evolving gradually", however if science could point to a way or example of them gradually evolving that would decrease confidence in the premise ID believers use

science can't really attack the conclusion of ID though

And you can keep complicating premises which still reach that conclusion

Like saying dinosaur bones are tricks planted by God or something

So if the premises are set up in a reasonable physical way science can increase or decrease confidence in those premises, but if they are unreasonable maybe not

proof of Newton's law of equal and opposite reaction: punch a table as hard as you can, does it hurt? Thats cause the table exerts a resistant force against your punch, thus equal and opposite reaction. From this we can prove the existence of a normal force and gravity since the force of gravity is what that little number is measuring when we stand on a scale and in order for us to stay on the ground and not shoot through the floor we would need to have a force opposing it, this is the normal force and as long as you are not in free fall you will have a force of gravity equal to that of the normal force. Qualifications: I live in my parent's basement mostly watching porn and contemplating my eventual demise.

What are you arguing again? @Fran

@floridaswamptrash Often times you reach conclusions about God or supernatural beings through physical observations; Science can decrease or increase confidence in those physical observations, but you can still change your argument to being purely nonphysical which makes it outside the realm of science

However the usefulness of Science is that you have empirical evidence for these physical claims and then if your argument naturally leads to evidence of God from these claims it gives you empirical evidence for the existence of God

if you are in a fully nonphysical argument for God you lose this advantage; you cant use empirical or physical evidence for the existence of God

Chance is the science's version of God

That would be like the ontological proof

Its purely a priori

you need 0 physical observations for it

The cosmological argument at least requires the physical observation that stuff exists and potentials are realized

@RoundEarther Science doesnt prove stuff. Your experiment is evidence that Newton's Law holds as a valid model in your experiment.

If you assume universality (That the laws of physics are the same everywhere or something like this) you can say you have high confidence Newton's laws will hold if you preform your experiment 100 ft to the left or 10000 ft above

Follow the instructions at the beginning of the proof

cringe

Some people prefer the "biological" God type thing

Judging from your comment i take it you didnt follow the instructions given. Newtons laws actually do hold universally, however we apply different conditions to them given the circumstances (under water, in the air, spinning around on a merry go roun)

And actually i can, i ran an experiment a while ago for a class, i can send you the data

Newtons laws dont hold in noninertail reference frames

Infact an inerital reference frame is by definition one where newtons laws do hold

They do, actually just finished doing this in class

Lemme see if i can write up the proof for it