Message from @marten.aap2.0

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2019-11-06 14:02:35 UTC  

You didn’t answer my question at all

2019-11-06 14:02:40 UTC  

if you refuse, it's because you know you can't

2019-11-06 14:02:43 UTC  

@RadRhys hes right but theres gravity that holds the lowest pressure from space vauum

2019-11-06 14:02:52 UTC  

He asked you a question @CryptoCypher, you just repeated it

2019-11-06 14:03:32 UTC  

he hasn't answered the question! I'll wait til I see an answer to it, no need for me to waste any more of my time on you! you think you know a lot, when in reality, you know nothing

2019-11-06 14:03:58 UTC  

I am not Jon Snow, mind you

2019-11-06 14:04:59 UTC  

YOure not answering the question. Globers can just call in gravity, which you’re just going to turn into an argument about how gravity isn’t real which is shifting the focus away

2019-11-06 14:05:09 UTC  

Answer the question

2019-11-06 14:06:15 UTC  

You need a mechanism for why gas builds up at lower elevations despite having LARGE pressure differentials, larger than any you will find in the upper atmosphere/space.

2019-11-06 14:07:04 UTC  

its gravity thats holding the lowest atmospheric pressure from dipping out to space

2019-11-06 14:07:50 UTC  

And btw, the force of gravity increases with the lowering distance

2019-11-06 14:08:13 UTC  

Please don’t put my question higher up, I want it answered and it won’t be if y’all fall for the trap of focusing on something else

2019-11-06 14:08:16 UTC  

yeah, i dont know why hes trying to downplay gravity

2019-11-06 14:08:58 UTC  

To use Newton's here. Fg = G * m1 * m2 * 1/r^2

2019-11-06 14:11:20 UTC  

when r becomes smaller, Fg increases

2019-11-06 14:13:34 UTC  

@Jondar02 thats interesting, if you take 2 vacuums one at sea level and another at 50 m above sea level would the drop time change?

2019-11-06 14:14:27 UTC  

He’s overstating the difference, but ofc the drop time would change one’s way higher lmao

2019-11-06 14:14:43 UTC  

Sorry, I and my classmate can't understand your question @Lain

2019-11-06 14:15:00 UTC  

hi, classmate here, can you please explain it a little more

2019-11-06 14:15:08 UTC  

the altitude would change the force of gravity right?

2019-11-06 14:15:12 UTC  

yes

2019-11-06 14:15:15 UTC  

thats correct

2019-11-06 14:15:28 UTC  

the `r` in the equation is the distance between the objects

2019-11-06 14:15:37 UTC  

He’s asking that since you’re further out from the center of gravity, if it would fall slower

2019-11-06 14:16:52 UTC  

if you have 2 vacuums, one at sea level and another one above 50m sea level and you dropped something from the same height in the vacuum wouldnt the time the object hits the floor of the vacuum be different?

2019-11-06 14:17:15 UTC  

i think yes since the r is different right?

2019-11-06 14:18:21 UTC  

@RadRhys exactly

2019-11-06 14:18:28 UTC  

what im asking

2019-11-06 14:18:47 UTC  

It would accelerate slower

2019-11-06 14:19:25 UTC  

Due to the "G" in the equation it's not a significant difference though

2019-11-06 14:19:33 UTC  

wait that would totally prove gravity, isnt there a video where they do this experiment?

2019-11-06 14:19:41 UTC  

noww flat earthers will shut up

2019-11-06 14:20:46 UTC  

The G is a number in the 10^-11, the difference would be far too small to notice

2019-11-06 14:21:31 UTC  

I imagine air resistance is far more influential, because it decreases exponentially with elevation

2019-11-06 14:21:39 UTC  

It is

2019-11-06 14:23:02 UTC  

if you take a vacuum into the stratosphere wouldnt the drop be significantly more slow than on the ground?

2019-11-06 14:23:13 UTC  

you could do this on a plane 🤔

2019-11-06 14:23:52 UTC  

why hasnt no one tested this?

2019-11-06 14:24:11 UTC  

F air = 0.5 * Cw * A * Rho * v^2
Where:
F air is the force of the air resistance
Cw is the aerodynamic constant (usually around 1)
A is the surface area
Rho is the density of the air
V is the velocity

2019-11-06 14:24:23 UTC  

I have a simulation on that @Lain, let me grab it

2019-11-06 14:24:43 UTC  

I posit it would drop much faster because pressure decreases exponentially