Message from Deleted User in #FedsShallRiseAgain! #regional-legislatures


2018-07-30 00:31:01 UTC  

Then he has no obligation to support your idea

2018-07-30 00:31:18 UTC  

He also hasn't addressed the raccoon issue at all :/

2018-07-30 00:31:19 UTC  

Since it's all just a vanity policy

2018-07-30 00:39:41 UTC  

many southerners expressed a desire to rename the region. it's an issue that's come up in the South tons of times post reset. it's not a vanity policy at all.

2018-07-30 00:40:09 UTC  

But southerners disagree on what to exactly rename it to

2018-07-30 00:40:49 UTC  

and the current discussion in the chamber has been to have the citizens vote on the version they prefer

2018-07-30 00:41:58 UTC  

And pretty much the Chamber will pick whichever name the "alpha male" gets the necessary votes for

2018-07-30 00:41:59 UTC  

even if YT hadn't introduced the bill, Ben would have tried to force through renaming it back to IDS, and been a lot less reasonable than YT on the issue

2018-07-30 00:42:17 UTC  

you don't know Ben and how he works

2018-07-30 00:43:45 UTC  

at least how it's currently planned, the southerners actually pick, not the chamber.

2018-07-30 00:44:26 UTC  

So would there be a referendum on a list of possible names?

2018-07-30 00:44:53 UTC  

And the chamber picks the list of names?

2018-07-30 00:45:58 UTC  

Ben wants to not give southerners a choice

2018-07-30 00:46:11 UTC  

He put a bill that would just need to be signed by the Governor

2018-07-30 00:46:21 UTC  

I want something that lets the people decide

2018-07-30 00:46:46 UTC  

So do you like the referendum list idea

2018-07-30 00:46:53 UTC  

Yeah

2018-07-30 01:18:00 UTC  

As I've stated previously, I will not sign a bill that changes the name of the region.

2018-07-30 01:18:19 UTC  

It should be a decision made by The People, not by 7 delegates and then me.

2018-07-30 01:18:29 UTC  

100% agreed

2018-07-30 01:18:35 UTC  

Yeah it needs to be a referendum

2018-07-30 01:18:42 UTC  

With a list choice

2018-07-30 01:18:50 UTC  

We just need to get names

2018-07-30 01:19:00 UTC  

I think we can open up the floor for the people’s suggestions

2018-07-30 01:19:06 UTC  

Close it after 24 hours

2018-07-30 01:19:53 UTC  

Then put it up as a list preference and the first one that hits with 50.1# gets to be the new name

2018-07-30 01:20:12 UTC  

That’s how I’d prefer it, I just don’t know the proper way of doing it

2018-07-30 01:20:37 UTC  

Maybe more than 24 hours

2018-07-30 01:20:53 UTC  

And yeah ranked choice voting is always great

2018-07-30 01:21:54 UTC  

Largely I think my plan is good

2018-07-30 01:22:14 UTC  

I really would prefer we not ever return to the IDS as it is really lame

2018-07-30 01:22:32 UTC  

What about IDJ

2018-07-30 01:50:09 UTC  

That’s not happening

2018-07-30 04:29:09 UTC  

let me catch up here.

2018-07-30 04:29:39 UTC  

There are people within the party that have explicitly requested and would prefer the IDS. It should be on the ballot, regardless as to what the others might think.

2018-07-30 04:30:34 UTC  

Personally I think a ballot with the south, jefferson and the IDS whichever gets the most should be the one used. That would be my preference if we're doing a ballot.

2018-07-30 04:32:32 UTC  

"Ben wants to not give southerners a choice" Look, Ahab. Can we please stop this?

2018-07-30 04:33:27 UTC  

"even if YT hadn't introduced the bill, Ben would have tried to force through renaming it back to IDS, and been a lot less reasonable than YT on the issue
you don't know Ben and how he works
at least how it's currently planned, the southerners actually pick, not the chamber"

2018-07-30 04:33:47 UTC  

well, if we're going to speculate on my motives am I at least allowed to present what I planned to do?

2018-07-30 04:34:15 UTC  

or are we just going to assume, sans proof and condemn me while we're at it?

2018-07-30 04:36:31 UTC  

my original plan was to present the IDS bill to rename the south the IDS. Beyond that was up to the delegates. The reason I wasn't happy was that as a con amendment, there were other issues that needed to be considered. Issues that have pretty much been glossed over and aren't relevant at present since we're not doing that. I don't see how that counts as 'forcing the bill through' anymore so than any other bill to the delegates.