Message from NCY1689 in #FedsShallRiseAgain! #fed-discussion


2018-03-03 02:40:32 UTC  

Federal and state

2018-03-03 02:40:43 UTC  

Is the state portions being included or not in their estimates

2018-03-03 02:47:08 UTC  

The other rather thing we could address budget wise is Social Security, though not immediately a big driver of the deficit

2018-03-03 02:47:23 UTC  

the state contributions are not included

2018-03-03 02:47:41 UTC  

for medicaid

2018-03-03 02:49:14 UTC  

That explains the shortfall then

2018-03-03 02:49:21 UTC  

or at least most of it

2018-03-03 02:51:23 UTC  

States account for 37% of Medicaid spending on average

2018-03-03 02:52:41 UTC  

Atlasian Healthcare ($1261.14 Billion)
$423.77 Billion... Senior Healthcare
$44.31 Billion.... Veteran Healthcare
$12.90 Billion.... Federal employees' and retired employees' health benefits
$388.98 Billion... Healthcare Subsidy (Medicaid (Federal Portion)+CHIP)
$36.44 Billion ... Healthcare Subsidy (Medicaid Underutilized Expansion Est. Fed Costs)
$338.85 Billion... Healthcare Subsidy (Sliding Scale for rest of population)
$15.89 Billion.... Healthcare Subsidy Office (HSO) and AtlasCare Office (ACO) Administration

2018-03-03 02:52:53 UTC  

here's the healthcare spending breakdown

2018-03-03 02:53:52 UTC  

So then it is not the shortfall

2018-03-03 02:54:01 UTC  

I was talking about the revenue side

2018-03-03 02:54:29 UTC  

You see we are already beneath RL

2018-03-03 02:54:46 UTC  

Medicare and Medicaid alone are

2018-03-03 02:54:52 UTC  

1.2 Trillion in RL

2018-03-03 02:55:12 UTC  

here's other revenue

2018-03-03 02:55:15 UTC  

Healthcare Taxes:
Healthcare Payroll Tax - $ 856.1 Billion
5% (2.5% on employees, 2.5% on employers)

ACA Originated Taxes:
40% Cadillac Tax - $ 0.00 Billion
0.9% Payroll Tax - $ 263.35 Billion
3.8% on Net Investment Income - $ 12.80 Billion

Excise Taxes:
Carbon Tax - $ 16.35 Billion
Gasoline Tax - $ 50.00 Billion
Tobacco and Alcohol Taxes - $ 24.20 Billion
Excise taxes on health insurance providers,
pharmaceuticals, and medical devices - $ 9.90 Billion

Customs Duties: $ 36.30 Billion

Other Revenue: $ 105.00 Billion

2018-03-03 02:55:50 UTC  

and see, it doesn't mention state contributions to Medicaid

2018-03-03 02:55:53 UTC  

Sp healthcare is under by about $200 billion

2018-03-03 02:56:02 UTC  

hmm

2018-03-03 02:56:29 UTC  

WE are going to need to do a bill to on the Medicaid situation

2018-03-03 02:56:43 UTC  

ok

2018-03-03 02:56:46 UTC  

Here is the problem

2018-03-03 02:57:03 UTC  

the budget is acting as if both the Spending and revenue still occurs at the state level

2018-03-03 02:57:06 UTC  

as if nothing had changed

2018-03-03 02:57:11 UTC  

But Medicaid doesnt' exist

2018-03-03 02:57:15 UTC  

anymore

2018-03-03 02:57:34 UTC  

So what is that money going to

2018-03-03 02:57:46 UTC  

so how exactly did atlascare affect that

2018-03-03 02:57:55 UTC  

Abolished Medicaid

2018-03-03 02:58:08 UTC  

and incorporated it into the subsidy

2018-03-03 02:58:19 UTC  

So the entire cost of Mediciad is borne through the subsidy at the federal level

2018-03-03 02:58:32 UTC  

and the federal expense list should include both portions

2018-03-03 02:58:51 UTC  

Our deficit is thus worse than what the GM department says

2018-03-03 02:59:17 UTC  

💀

2018-03-03 02:59:36 UTC  

We need to find a way to transfer that state revenue to the federal level to cover the state portion presently not included

2018-03-03 02:59:41 UTC  

that 39%

2018-03-03 02:59:53 UTC  

is about $234 billion

2018-03-03 03:00:02 UTC  

which is the same amount that the deficit is undervalued by

2018-03-03 03:00:14 UTC  

1,134 Trillion

2018-03-03 03:00:24 UTC  

or somewhere around there