re: that meme

how dare capitalism allow so many people to not starve

@obrallaghan actually it causes people to starve

actually it doesn't

It dose..but it's meme time so we'll talk about this later

there's no objective metric by which you could make that claim

eh if you'Re talking about pure capitalism

people would starve to death left and right

but we don't live in hardcore ancap capitalism

socialist policies keep us from starving when we lost our job m8 <:GWcfcThonk:357907199928041473>

no they wouldn't, as a very small portion of the population maybe gets like an aditional 500 to maybe 1000 calories paid for by social services

you'd find most on welfare are actually overweight anyways

food was never an issue

that's not an accurate metric, there are other differences between true capitalism and actually doable capitalism that prevent people from starving <:GWcfcThonk:357907199928041473>

true capitalism would just me that I personally would have more in my bank account at the end of the month

therefore more food for me and less social services

the west is "true capitalism" with socialist systems leaching on top of it

I don't think you realise just how much was changed from the original idea of capitalism until it could actually sensibly work <:GWcfcThonk:357907199928041473>

excluding everything that you call socialist even <:GWcfcThonk:357907199928041473>

you'd have to explain to me how my company paying me a nice wage for my productivity so that they can make even more money themselves isn't "true capitalism"

bruh that's over 9000 on the simplification scale

no it isn't

the company started from nothing

I know the owners

have you even read ricardo, jean jacques rousseau or kaynes? <:GWcfcThonk:357907199928041473>

and in what sense is it not true capitalism then?

if you're unable to explain it I'd have to wager you don't really understand what you're saying

because 'laissez-faire' as it's referred to which is also a term that changed over the years is different from American capitalism or even just libertarian capitalism

who said anything about laisez fair?

the original idea of capitalism was basically without rules, regulations weren'T a thing, consumer protection was an idea that hadn't even been invented yet

how is someone taking their own money, and making a profit generating service not true capitalism

that's capitalism

I'm talking about the 'true' original capitilism

I've only ever worked for small to medium companies where I knew the owner, who started the company from nothing

the fucking word capitilism is giving me a spelling disorder

true capitalism is a live and well

bruh

that's a small fraction of it

tiny fraction