but we started kingmaker in roll20 before he bought fantasy grounds

Ah

I wanna try out kingmaker. Maybe adapt it to a homebrew

I know FG is cheaper in the long run, and has some cool features. I think iirc it is just missing the dynamic lighting. Which is usually a pain on roll20 anyway

This is second hand tho. So was wanting someone's real opinion before dumping the money

FG is being rebuilt from the ground up in Unity or something

so better performance, same powerful features and brand new rendering shit for map - including dynamic lighting

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/smiteworks/fantasy-grounds-unity

backwards compatible with all the content packs

Oh shit. Then literally the only thing it wont have is sound/video which was janky with roll20 and useless anywho

if you check the vids on that page it's looking shit hot

I'll check it out. If this is the case I will buy it without hesitation once its out.

our GM came into a pretty nice inheritance when his grandfather died, one of the things he bought was the host license for FG

so if he is GM anyone else can use FG totally free

Yea I knew that part.

which is actually a pretty baller business model

we're gonna pitch in to buy him the tyrant's grasp data packs

Yea. Downside is no free user GMs like roll20, so kinda a partial paywall. But still a superior product is worth it

honestly it seems like it's worth the cash

It is compared to roll20 sub model

roll20 is buggy as fuck and paywalls essential features

https://youtu.be/1gHmxi4EydE

He breaks the costs down the best

the character sheets in roll20 are a total mess

Well most are fan made

The compendium is mostly srd

Downside is you get most of the monster manual with roll20 sub, but have to buy it in FG. Iirc

hmm idk about that

I could be confusing it. I think he was comparing 5e, not pathfinder however

I do all my character shit in herolab

Ah

I used to just use a form fillable pdf

I'm a noob lol

herolab makes it easy to be a retard

Fair. Tbh you dont get better unless you try the old school way a few times

if I was playing an irl game I'd do it on paper

Crack the books. Write on a sheet

You can do it technologically, it does the same

Pdfs all the way

I'm meaning avoiding the auto fill sheets ext

the bonus of herolab is that it calculates all the bonuses for you, makes life significantly easier when you've got a fuck ton of high level gear lolo