are you kidding me here

a *californian*

go look at 17

eh, the m4 looks okay, not quite windy enough to be fun though

I've only driven around sf in cali, until north of the Golden gate bridge I didn't see any roads that I would have particularly considered suitable for enthusiasts though

look at los gatos

that's where all the rich people are

that area and palo alto

but look at the roads in the santa cruz mountain range

the thing is this doesn't prove anything, I would put money on the majority of supercar owners being exactly the same there

Idk about exactly

they're buying for status or investment on limited runs

but we're both talking from anecdote here

but I will say I've seen more ferraris than any other

and maybe lamborghinis too

and that is the evidence, most enthusiasts buy porsche if they want the driving experience

because porsche are probably the best at making a "fun" car

for a good price, yeah

but once you go up in price you can start to branch out with "fun"

you say that but it's not really true

hmm?

the huracan and aventador are definitely less fun

but they are faster

they also sound better

ferrari are probably the best at sound

few things come close to the 812

but for actual fun, I'd take a gt2rs

well, I mean if I had that kind of money to play with I'd probably get something from the 90s

idk, I think a demon sounds fun

but that's just because I'm not a huge fan of traction

or self-preservation

I've driven chargers and challengers, sadly no demons or hellcats

they're fine but

holy shit the weight isn't nice

I drive a suburban normally

wat

where'd my emoji go

my universal emoji

did they change it

nothing wrong with that, at least you can fit all the things in it

no, I know nothing's wrong with it