silicon valley here

I know

I figured it out

I know what it is

england is a police state with shitty roads where going too fast lands you a ticket regardless of whether there's police nearby

uh...

when I say shitty roads I mean for fun driving

I don't mean poor road conditions

you can assume that but there are plenty of roads you can speed on with little risk

okay, but which ones are they?

like, are they big long windy roads

m4 is good, m40 is alright, m1 is okay once you pass luton at night but not in the day

my experience with england has been that all the city roads are too narrow, all the country roads are too narrow, and they're relatively straight

and/or have traffic

an American talking about straight roads

although I haven't been in a while

lol

are you kidding me here

a *californian*

go look at 17

eh, the m4 looks okay, not quite windy enough to be fun though

I've only driven around sf in cali, until north of the Golden gate bridge I didn't see any roads that I would have particularly considered suitable for enthusiasts though

look at los gatos

that's where all the rich people are

that area and palo alto

but look at the roads in the santa cruz mountain range

the thing is this doesn't prove anything, I would put money on the majority of supercar owners being exactly the same there

Idk about exactly

they're buying for status or investment on limited runs

but we're both talking from anecdote here

but I will say I've seen more ferraris than any other

and maybe lamborghinis too

and that is the evidence, most enthusiasts buy porsche if they want the driving experience

because porsche are probably the best at making a "fun" car

for a good price, yeah

but once you go up in price you can start to branch out with "fun"

you say that but it's not really true

hmm?

the huracan and aventador are definitely less fun

but they are faster

they also sound better