Message from @Nordhand

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2019-03-26 02:30:40 UTC  

But it was their biggest.

2019-03-26 02:31:25 UTC  

oh?

2019-03-26 02:31:32 UTC  

what were their other controversies?

2019-03-26 02:37:19 UTC  

Bethesda have always gotten a pass on buggy mess as the ease of modding support so most game braking bugs you did get mods for in less the 24H and a patch a few weeks later. they did remove that option with FO76 and on top of it FO76 was not a game people did want. they did want a new FO single player game

2019-03-26 02:42:16 UTC  

Well Oblivion was essentially garbage and a terrible engine. They then did the "Horse Armor" DLC which was a ridiculous price for just a graphical add-on or some shit. They also did a bunch more DLC nonsense. Then I think it was during Skyrim they tried to push out paid mods, including their own terrible content. THAT was a gigantic issue. They eventually reverted mods to normal. That whole mess is kind of complicated. The short is that the basic concept of making it easier for mod makers to receive paid appreciation from users wasn't bad, but it should have just been a donate button on the mod page instead of some kind of digital store. Especially with how mods are hit or miss and often dependent on user preference, and some are downright garbage.

2019-03-26 02:42:49 UTC  

I'm sure I'm missing out on a lot of their other controversies. But the paid mods was a gigantic one.

2019-03-26 02:43:38 UTC  

they have been testing out the waters for ages, the paid mods was a clusterfuck as it did turn out that people was just stealing other people work and did upload it as their own

2019-03-26 02:43:47 UTC  

Yep.

2019-03-26 02:43:55 UTC  

It was abusable as fuck.

2019-03-26 02:44:13 UTC  

I'm still pissed at the DLC shit from Oblivion.

2019-03-26 02:44:25 UTC  

Like... it was a garbage game. At least give a DLC that is actual CONTENT.

2019-03-26 02:44:32 UTC  

Like the expansions for Morrowind.

2019-03-26 02:45:01 UTC  

Remember when expansions were actual full content additions? You paid $15 and got many hours of fun and additional content?

2019-03-26 02:45:08 UTC  

Instead of $15 for a fucking horse armor mod.

2019-03-26 02:45:15 UTC  

the DLC shit did come as a reaction to GameStop making a killing on used games

2019-03-26 02:45:26 UTC  

Oh that's just a bullshit excuse.

2019-03-26 02:45:31 UTC  

The secondary market has always existed.

2019-03-26 02:46:04 UTC  

And people have always wanted new games. The secondary market was there to help less wealthy people game more.

2019-03-26 02:46:55 UTC  

They didn't need to try to milk gamers to hell and back. It was scummy as fuck and 100% unnecessary and it has contributed to ruining gaming.

2019-03-26 02:47:19 UTC  

Yes I mad.

2019-03-26 02:47:54 UTC  

yea. but at one point the used console market was so big tha games was resold several times as people was done with it. it was a rental system where you did get a 1$ back when you was done with the game and the store did get to resell the game. it was inevitable that the greedy fuckers did try and find a way to fuck it up for everyone as they did feel they was owned more of the pie

2019-03-26 02:48:31 UTC  

The problem is they couldn't do math, apparently.

2019-03-26 02:48:45 UTC  

and yea I do not think it was a good excuse. but as always consoles makes it worse for the PC market

2019-03-26 02:48:50 UTC  

Those "sales" of $1 or so weren't going to lead to "sales" of fucking $60.

2019-03-26 02:49:02 UTC  

Because to consumers money is finite.

2019-03-26 02:49:42 UTC  

They have to pick and choose what they spend on.

2019-03-26 02:50:00 UTC  

As well as how much they spend.

2019-03-26 02:50:32 UTC  

it the same mentality that every pirated game is a loss of sales, when the truth is that most pirates was never going to buy it anyway

2019-03-26 02:51:05 UTC  

Or that pirates simply wanted to try it out when there wasn't a trial.

2019-03-26 02:51:50 UTC  

Hell I've pirated shit that I didn't think I'd like but then when I played it I liked it and then bought it.

2019-03-26 02:51:57 UTC  

Without piracy they would have never had my money.

2019-03-26 02:52:09 UTC  

yea, a lot of times you did pirate a game to see it it was worth the money as you was a broke bastard. it the same now with YT and twitch

2019-03-26 02:53:06 UTC  

That's another point. Many pirates just don't have money at the time, but then come back later when they do have money to spend a lot, and buy the SHIT out of the stuff they liked.

2019-03-26 02:53:19 UTC  

true

2019-03-26 02:53:46 UTC  

Piracy is also used to test if a game will even run on your system.

2019-03-26 02:54:16 UTC  

These days optimization is either great or something the devs never even tried to do.

2019-03-26 02:54:28 UTC  

And you simply cannot tell from game specs.

2019-03-26 02:54:41 UTC  

that was important back in the day when you did have so many different system configurations it was silly

2019-03-26 02:54:52 UTC  

It's still important now.

2019-03-26 02:54:54 UTC  

But less so.

2019-03-26 02:55:17 UTC  

Important more for the mid-range and especially low-end systems.