Message from @Fitzydog

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2019-04-30 08:33:31 UTC  

@HungBunny D&D fun?

2019-05-01 00:21:55 UTC  

just go on roll20, there are plenty of nerds wanting to play there

2019-05-01 00:23:08 UTC  

I want to play, but I hate DMing

2019-05-01 00:24:03 UTC  

so then look for a game that's looking for players

2019-05-01 01:26:52 UTC  

Reading a hangmans diary read this shit

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/532966360519802890/572957077199388712/image0.jpg

2019-05-01 02:28:20 UTC  
2019-05-01 02:28:45 UTC  

the bag thing is weird. I don't know much about it tbh, or what it could symbolize

2019-05-01 02:29:22 UTC  

I havnt read about this stuff in ages but I think it's something akin to the origin of the free masons

2019-05-01 02:29:39 UTC  

A large collection of traders built gobekli tepe is my guess

2019-05-01 02:29:45 UTC  

idk, probably not.

2019-05-01 02:30:00 UTC  

They'd be the most travelled, the most wise and most learnt

2019-05-01 02:30:09 UTC  

Trade routes necessitate agriculture in order to sustain production

2019-05-01 02:31:21 UTC  

Graham says pre agriculture but I don't remember much about how he explains that

2019-05-01 02:31:30 UTC  

I dont see hunter gatherers building that

2019-05-01 02:31:39 UTC  

What's interesting, is about 1500-2000 years after Gobekli Tepe was built, the Yamnaya just on the north side of the Caucuses spread out to create the Indo-European peoples

2019-05-01 02:31:49 UTC  

@HungBunny Well that's my point

2019-05-01 02:31:57 UTC  

They weren't 'hunter gatherers'

2019-05-01 02:32:24 UTC  

The cow wasn't domesticated *quite yet*, but it dates to around the same time as Gobkli tepe

2019-05-01 02:32:53 UTC  

And building fences is hard. So why not herd them like goats?

2019-05-01 02:33:28 UTC  

Just follow your cattle wherever they travel. Eventually you see that the cows stop in the same places to-and-fro

2019-05-01 02:34:01 UTC  

You build a camp site, and then start preparing it for your journey next season

2019-05-01 02:36:40 UTC  

True

2019-05-01 02:36:54 UTC  

It couldnt have just gone from hunter-gatherer to agriculture

2019-05-01 02:37:04 UTC  

Would've been many steps along the way

2019-05-01 02:37:27 UTC  

idk, I haven't seen anyone talk about Aurochs and gobekli tepe in the same context yet.

Or postulating ancient herding techniques

2019-05-01 02:38:00 UTC  

Another explanation could be highly religious hunter-gatherers but that seems less likely

2019-05-01 02:38:13 UTC  

Have you heard about the Eye of the Sahara Atlantis theory?

2019-05-01 02:38:54 UTC  

Nah. I'm fairly certain they were more sedentary than hunter-gatherers, but more mobile than a purely agrarian society.

They were the first cowboys lol

Yeah, I've heard about it

2019-05-01 02:42:05 UTC  

It's all so interesting. We could've been around for so much longer then we thought

2019-05-01 02:43:02 UTC  

Look more into the Yamnaya and the Indo-European expansion

2019-05-01 02:43:15 UTC  

If you haven't already

2019-05-01 02:43:45 UTC  

They might have been a 'Mongol invasion' that was lost to oral istory

2019-05-01 02:46:01 UTC  

I'll do that

2019-05-01 02:48:31 UTC  

Genetically, only the Finns/Sami were unaffected (I think), and the Swedish seem to have mixed with them freely both men and women, and kept a distinction

Which indicates that they are the only group that wasn't raped/pillaged/absorbed

2019-05-01 02:49:36 UTC  

Typical swedes

2019-05-01 02:51:15 UTC  

Fended off rape from a literal world conquering nomadic warlord population in ancient times, yet can't do the same for some lowly Muslim immigrants lol

2019-05-04 13:40:59 UTC  

our last "proper" Prime Minister

2019-05-04 14:32:23 UTC  

Atleast thatcher had them ladyballs