Message from @Erwin Rommel
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For one, Britain could've very well avoided a war with Germany as could Poland had either of them accepted the German proposals for a referendum, a shared corridor etc. Even the BBC reported on this in August of 1939
the soviet union was completely unprepared for a german invasion
But it was completely prepared for an invasion of its own
Why do you think all of its airfields were right at the border
why do you think none of their defenses were?
or that it was busy clearing minefields in 30s instead of placing more
and none of their materiel at all
well, that must have been before they signed a non-aggression pact
Because the way offensive and defensive armies are composed are radically different
i feel this convo is circular
Well it wasn't, actually
sure, but they are composed with materiel
Soviet buildup not only continued but intensified after the pact just as intended
Pact or no pact, the buildup was a fact
when there's not one military force until leningrad. i do believe they weren't on the cusp of an invasion.
Yeah, and tons of it were right at the border
oh it was now?
That's why the Germans were able to destroy thousands of planes and light tanks even before the summer of 1941 was over
it's quite a bit bigger country
Um, yes they had a plan, but the British Air Force (Bulstered by the American supplies) kept them from air superiority. Which the Army needed to launch an invasion
but Operation Barbarossa
The Luftwaffe had complete air superiority over the Soviet Union until mid to late 1942
i'm probably done talking
I was commenting to the original, Hitler was a moron. His command yes men.
Eh well
And he couldn't stop a losing invasion, because he already fucked the economy having it planned in detail and being unable to adjust it.
If your arguments boil down to "Hitler was a moron" then I guess I'm done myself
luftwaffe had air superiourity over a country that was on the cusp of an invasion apparently without an air force
i'm a different person than floki, we have different names
that's how you tell us apart
Stalin was never going to invade. Hell he didn't even believe Hitler would invade him. Hence his slow reaction
your was plural
Hitler was one of the few people Stalin actually trusted. More than likely due to German Support of his Rebellion
On the day of the invasion alone the soviet airforce lost 1,200 planes
most of the on the ground
on airfields
right at the new border
but nooo, no invasion plans at all
Because you tend to move plains to a border
Not at the interior