Message from @woll3

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2019-08-11 12:01:42 UTC  

villagers become entitled, feel like they're owed more and more, threaten him and demand more gibs

2019-08-11 20:15:03 UTC  

human nature

2019-08-11 20:16:55 UTC  

@Fitzydog it was me responding to comments on reddit, which i gave in quotes

2019-08-11 20:21:01 UTC  

primitive peoples always have trouble integrating

2019-08-11 20:21:14 UTC  

same with any drastically different culture i suspect, integration has to be slow

2019-08-11 20:37:03 UTC  

august resents the guy because he feels he needs to catch up to the modern world, but that welsh man is the only way he can, so he feels like the welsh guy has all this power over him

2019-08-11 20:37:13 UTC  

it's an uncontrollable human feeling

2019-08-11 20:37:37 UTC  

imagine if earth was at the edge of the universe, and there was this alien civilization that was much larger

2019-08-11 20:38:11 UTC  

and some alien comes to earth and says, well all alien trinkets can only be bought with alien money, which is worth a million times more than any currency on earth

2019-08-11 20:38:27 UTC  

so the only way to get alien money is through the alien guy who comes to earth and talks to you

2019-08-11 20:39:05 UTC  

meanwhile, earthlings are fully aware of alien civilization, it gets broadcast on the internet, tv, etc.

2019-08-11 20:39:28 UTC  

there are successful humans that move up in alien society, but then there's an underclass living on earth

2019-08-11 20:39:44 UTC  

and you can move up if you have enough alien money, but the only way to get that money is through like one guy

2019-08-11 20:39:54 UTC  

and you can't afford a trip to the alien land

2019-08-11 20:39:57 UTC  

i think that's what i feels like

2019-08-11 20:41:06 UTC  

and say the aliens have a cure for cancer, but it can only be bought with alien money

2019-08-11 20:41:22 UTC  

your friends have cancer, etc.

2019-08-11 20:41:55 UTC  

i think that this isnt fully comparable

2019-08-11 20:42:00 UTC  

how so

2019-08-11 20:42:06 UTC  

the feeling, maybe

2019-08-11 20:42:13 UTC  

but the difference lies in how to achieve it

2019-08-11 20:42:32 UTC  

last thing you would do is sperg out towards the alien friend

2019-08-11 20:42:40 UTC  

say, in order to integrate into alien society, you have to give up western values too

2019-08-11 20:42:55 UTC  

like some cultural thing you value - eg. the new guineans value their rituals

2019-08-11 20:43:56 UTC  

@woll3 well, the alien friend might be act like some SJW boss who keeps sending you back to sensitivity training

2019-08-11 20:44:36 UTC  

you would be able to act it out

2019-08-11 20:44:46 UTC  

fake it until you make it?

2019-08-11 20:45:18 UTC  

yeah, and thats the main thing here why this example imo doesnt work too well

2019-08-11 20:45:30 UTC  

im just trying to explain why it's hard - this doesn't change the fact that integration has to be slow for drastically different cultures

2019-08-11 20:45:55 UTC  

its just that your example is fairly compatible/graspable in comparison

2019-08-11 20:45:55 UTC  

@woll3 well basically, if you encounter a superior culture, you'll immerse yourself in it right

2019-08-11 20:46:23 UTC  

then you'll grow detached from your old way of life, but then you gotta give up western values - so it's a great temptation, self inflicted suffering that's impossible to avoid

2019-08-11 20:46:30 UTC  

it would be different if you cannot comprehend their logic

2019-08-11 20:46:47 UTC  

you can cut yourself off entirely from the alien civilization, but know that your friends will ahve to die of incurable diseases that humans can't deal with on their own

2019-08-11 20:46:53 UTC  

or that you will

2019-08-11 20:46:56 UTC  

or you yourself arent equipped to think tactically

2019-08-11 20:47:01 UTC  

oh ok

2019-08-11 20:47:22 UTC  

well, the aliens don't have to be super exotic for the example to work

2019-08-11 20:47:40 UTC  

thats what i mean, we are advanced enough to adapt and grasp concepts that are foreign

2019-08-11 20:48:22 UTC  

no, humans aren't perfectly logical

2019-08-11 20:48:43 UTC  

none of us are - there's cultural concepts that we can't fully grasp enough to be deemed 'integrated'