Message from @Patty

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2019-04-23 22:31:56 UTC  

I didn't want to write everything out

2019-04-23 22:32:03 UTC  

My hands are cold :/

2019-04-23 22:32:12 UTC  

@Patty You understand what I'm saying with the small sample size though, right?

2019-04-23 22:32:16 UTC  

like if you want to push for it being studies further thats cool

2019-04-23 22:32:20 UTC  

There was only one

2019-04-23 22:32:23 UTC  

studied*

2019-04-23 22:32:30 UTC  

Yes, but it's not conclusive or even suggestive in any way it is a cure

2019-04-23 22:32:41 UTC  

@Patty That's not my point

2019-04-23 22:32:44 UTC  

but i dont think we can look at this make statements about trans people in general

2019-04-23 22:33:21 UTC  

We are not aware of any way to cure the root cause of true gender dysphoria other than transitional therapy

2019-04-23 22:33:37 UTC  

YOU are not aware you mean

2019-04-23 22:33:41 UTC  

Us as humans

2019-04-23 22:33:44 UTC  

As a race

2019-04-23 22:33:45 UTC  

Wrong

2019-04-23 22:33:48 UTC  

As a medical body

2019-04-23 22:33:59 UTC  

Okay but like lets look at it this way.

2019-04-23 22:34:02 UTC  

Then please give your supporting evidence

2019-04-23 22:34:27 UTC  

I've just showed you evidence that there is a possibility for medication to resolve the issue.

Why has no one even tried to investigate this since the 90s? @Patty

2019-04-23 22:34:50 UTC  

I just showed you it is highly suspect and the dysphoria may have been brought on by extraneous factors

2019-04-23 22:35:08 UTC  

We have one study on one person where the authors weren't even super on board with it proving anything, only suggesting maybe it should be tested more. On the other side we have 52 studies with far more than one person saying transition has positive results

2019-04-23 22:35:14 UTC  

^

2019-04-23 22:35:14 UTC  

@Patty Jesus hell, do you know how medications are researched?

2019-04-23 22:35:22 UTC  

Yes

2019-04-23 22:35:32 UTC  

You think we just try once, find the magic cure, and that's that?

2019-04-23 22:35:43 UTC  

There was _nothing_ to suggest it would work

2019-04-23 22:35:52 UTC  

Could it be? Highly unlikely but possible

2019-04-23 22:35:58 UTC  

Then explain to me why the case I showed you, is the MOST RECENT one done

2019-04-23 22:36:24 UTC  

Because nobody wants to throw extremely strong actually brain damaging medications at their patients

2019-04-23 22:36:42 UTC  

When there is 0 evidence

2019-04-23 22:36:45 UTC  

for it helping

2019-04-23 22:37:02 UTC  

Oh, so instead we throw that at a surgeon and toss in some horomone pills that we have no idea how they'll effect them 10 years down the road?

2019-04-23 22:37:08 UTC  

We do!

2019-04-23 22:37:10 UTC  

It helps

2019-04-23 22:37:15 UTC  

No, it does not

2019-04-23 22:37:22 UTC  

Suicide rates are the exact same

2019-04-23 22:38:01 UTC  

And I don't consider this a treatment whatsoever

2019-04-23 22:38:06 UTC  

The opposite

2019-04-23 22:38:15 UTC  

Its disgusting

2019-04-23 22:38:37 UTC  

You don't 'help' someone by capitulating their mental delusions

2019-04-23 22:39:06 UTC  

Want me to give you some facts that meet you half way?

2019-04-23 22:39:18 UTC  

FFS (facial reconstruction surgery) does not decrease dysphoria