Message from @Sock

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2019-04-23 23:09:26 UTC  

My biggest concern, are the psychologists and sociologists who don't find transgenderism to be a problem at all, but something to be embraced and celebrated.

THAT is some fucked up shit

2019-04-23 23:09:45 UTC  

Transabled got me

2019-04-23 23:10:03 UTC  

I’m never going to see the world in a good light again...

2019-04-23 23:10:29 UTC  

First time?

2019-04-23 23:11:13 UTC  

@brownin <:HonkHonk:566814473646768128>

2019-04-23 23:12:22 UTC  

Watching your brother going from ‘normal’ to someone who can’t even fucking walk, write, even feed himself and has asked to be taken for euthanasia then you got some fucking nutjobs wanting that....

2019-04-23 23:13:17 UTC  

Clown world isn’t even enough

2019-04-23 23:13:34 UTC  

that's rough..

2019-04-23 23:14:57 UTC  

Original goal of psychiatry: To help you become the best version if yourself and self actualize your potential

Today's goal: Prevent suicide

Jesus hell this society is sick and twisted

2019-04-23 23:15:42 UTC  

You can't be your best if you're dead lol

2019-04-23 23:15:58 UTC  

@Tero i can only read the abstracts bc again, paywalls, but some studies compare trans people who have gone through different kinds of transition to those who havent, and other studies follow the same people before and after

2019-04-23 23:16:04 UTC  

You can't be a full fucntioning man if you cut off your balls

2019-04-23 23:16:12 UTC  

Says who?

2019-04-23 23:16:22 UTC  

Says the rest of male society

2019-04-23 23:16:22 UTC  

Do you need to have children?

2019-04-23 23:16:26 UTC  

Yes

2019-04-23 23:16:30 UTC  

@Sock both are pointless if they don't randomly assign people to either the treatment or nontreatment group

2019-04-23 23:16:39 UTC  

Parenting is the ultimate goal of life

2019-04-23 23:16:39 UTC  

So is someone that shoots blanks not a man?

2019-04-23 23:16:50 UTC  

They're a tradgedy

2019-04-23 23:16:50 UTC  

You cant just randomly assign someone to transition

2019-04-23 23:16:57 UTC  

if they dont want to

2019-04-23 23:17:28 UTC  

see pic for why non randomized controlled clinical studies are pointless

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/570387797974712334/Screenshot_from_2019-04-20_18-26-21.png

2019-04-23 23:17:45 UTC  

I don't want to be inflammatory, so I'll just acknowledge your world view and respectfully disagree with it

2019-04-23 23:18:16 UTC  

I mean, we're getting to a point where you can do IVF with DNA from skin cells, so

2019-04-23 23:19:01 UTC  

But I am adament that you cannot be a good father or mother, without exemplifying the gender that you embody

2019-04-23 23:19:05 UTC  

i mean if you can accidentally give millions of women estrogen because it supposedly reduces heart attacks, a pretty simple outcome to measure, in theory anyway, when actually it does nothing

2019-04-23 23:19:16 UTC  

you need to show me some pretty serious research to prove that it helps traps

2019-04-23 23:20:39 UTC  

A cause of a singular event isn't really relatable to someone's daily wellbeing being increased

2019-04-23 23:20:54 UTC  

it's also notably much easier to measure

2019-04-23 23:21:26 UTC  

yet still the pharma companies tricked doctors into giving it out like candy to women

2019-04-23 23:22:31 UTC  

i'm fairly biased against pharma companies as pertains to psychiatric medication in general though

2019-04-23 23:22:55 UTC  

for the simple fact that they are greedy vampires who dishonestly represent data for profit

2019-04-23 23:23:10 UTC  

Same, which puts me in an extremely shitty situation

2019-04-23 23:23:28 UTC  

Is your concern is that the kind of person who would transition might be less likely to kill themselves regardless of wether they transition or not?

2019-04-23 23:24:00 UTC  

the concern is that without randomly assigning people to treatment group or placebo, you have no idea wtf the treatment does at all

2019-04-23 23:24:07 UTC  

period

2019-04-23 23:24:16 UTC  

How do you placebo gender reassignment?

2019-04-23 23:24:32 UTC  

give them non hormone pills i guess

2019-04-23 23:24:55 UTC  

But it'd be obvious that they didnt get the hormones

2019-04-23 23:25:05 UTC  

like if you get hormones things will happen to your body