Message from @Sock

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2019-04-24 00:49:45 UTC  

Memes are actually the first barrier to a civilized culture of intelligent species.

2019-04-24 00:49:51 UTC  

Prove me wrong. You can't.

2019-04-24 00:50:31 UTC  

Ok yeah sure homo-kekis is the endgame of evolution all intelligent people know that.

2019-04-24 00:50:59 UTC  

Humans as a species separated from our common ancestor 3-5 million years ago.
wait what

2019-04-24 00:51:11 UTC  

neanderthals were under a mil

2019-04-24 00:51:25 UTC  

Neanderthals couldn't meme.

2019-04-24 00:51:32 UTC  

New theory.

2019-04-24 00:52:01 UTC  

100 years from now "progressives" will long be extinct and forgotten.

2019-04-24 00:52:20 UTC  

gonna need a lot of helicopters to make that happen

2019-04-24 00:52:26 UTC  

If I become dictator, I promise that will be the case

2019-04-24 00:53:01 UTC  

Yeah common ancestor. We're not descended from chimps. Chimps and humans have a common ancestor that is neither. Neanderthals were just another failed hominid offshoot. This kinda gets back to the ranged weapon thing if you look at the Mousterian toolsset.

2019-04-24 00:53:18 UTC  

Helicopters?

2019-04-24 00:53:44 UTC  

@Sock are you a progressive? >_>

2019-04-24 00:53:52 UTC  

I still want to see the Styx dream of gay people can manage their pot farms with machine guns.

2019-04-24 00:54:16 UTC  

Even though I personally don't like weed.

2019-04-24 00:54:28 UTC  

Also start the helis.

2019-04-24 00:55:06 UTC  

I don't like mumble rap. That doesn't mean it should be illegal....

2019-04-24 00:55:54 UTC  

@Jym just to clarify, by last common ancestor, you mean with chimps?

2019-04-24 00:58:15 UTC  

@Tero

Yeah. As our closest living relative. There are a whole pile of extinct hominids on our fork. Likely a lot of extinct pongids on theirs we just don't focus on the chimp fossil records like we do hominids. There's a chimp genome project though so we can get a lot of data from that.

2019-04-24 00:58:16 UTC  

Progressive is kinda a broad label. Wouldn't identify with sjws if that's what you mean

2019-04-24 00:59:55 UTC  

This gets kinda weird though because there is more genetic variation between populations of chimps on the same landmass than there is among humans on the planet. Genetic expression is some weird shit my dude.

2019-04-24 01:00:37 UTC  

right

2019-04-24 01:00:56 UTC  

when you said common ancestor i assumed you meant most recent human from whom all living people are descended

2019-04-24 01:01:02 UTC  

which was definitely not 5m y.a.

2019-04-24 01:02:37 UTC  

One theory is that we had a mass die-off event in the late paleolithic that created a sort of genetic choke point and that would explain the lack of variation. But no for human ancestors we've got aa decent gauge of time and place using MtDNA. Because it is non-recombinant we don't have to estimate cross-breeding.

2019-04-24 01:03:57 UTC  

Spermatazoa are too small to contain Mitochondria so it is strictly maternal. That makes it really convenient to track descent because we can ignore other factors.

2019-04-24 01:07:08 UTC  

Mumble rap should actually be illegal.

2019-04-24 01:08:49 UTC  

For more info on the die off check out joe rogans podcasts with graham hancock

2019-04-24 01:08:56 UTC  

they just did one but there are a couple others

2019-04-24 01:09:41 UTC  

No people have an innalable right to make horrible music. And I have an insliable right to look down on them for their poor taste.

2019-04-24 01:12:29 UTC  

I don't know Hancock in particular but it is a fairly well accepted theory in the literature. It's also theorized that under such a die-off event the Hamilton inequality would be maximized again giving an evolutionary cause for our unusual prosocial behavior. We cannot **prove** this but it has some value as a model.

2019-04-24 01:14:43 UTC  

ohh sorry my bad

2019-04-24 01:14:44 UTC  

But it's not music.

2019-04-24 01:15:05 UTC  

i wasnt reading carefully

2019-04-24 01:15:19 UTC  

It's audible poison.

2019-04-24 01:15:50 UTC  

graham hancock is the dude who's proposing some cataclysm that effected whatever civilizations might have existed 12,800 years ago

2019-04-24 01:16:06 UTC  

a much less accepted idea

2019-04-24 01:16:24 UTC  

and unrelated to what you guys were talking about because its way later

2019-04-24 01:16:26 UTC  

@Sock

I didn't say anything was particularly bad. I think Rogan is a valuable outlet I just do not know that specific individual.

2019-04-24 01:17:19 UTC  

oh no im not accusing you of anything, i made a mistake