Message from @Beck

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2019-04-30 18:02:45 UTC  

``` One Man's Coup, is another Mans Revolution```

2019-04-30 18:03:19 UTC  

very true

2019-04-30 18:04:12 UTC  

explain. I gotta pea brain

2019-04-30 18:05:07 UTC  

Its a matter of Perspective and who wins in the end.
Rebel, Terrorist, Coup, Revolution, all buzzwords to push a narrative based on your point of view

2019-04-30 18:05:32 UTC  

And history is written by the winners.

2019-04-30 18:05:48 UTC  

one is only a terrorist when the person using the term disagrees with the ends being pursued
otherwise you're a freedom fighter, or based revolutionary

2019-04-30 18:06:02 UTC  

le freedum fighters

2019-04-30 18:06:27 UTC  

So if this action in Venuzuela fails they will forever be a "Rebel Coup"
If it succeeds it will be remembered as the "Freedom Revolution"

2019-04-30 18:06:28 UTC  

well its nice to know all that bs

2019-04-30 18:06:55 UTC  

it's basically just a restatement of the fact that history is always written by the victor

2019-04-30 18:07:45 UTC  

okay. it just looked off to me cause i think of a coup and a revolution as the same thing

2019-04-30 18:08:09 UTC  

coup always carries negative connotations

2019-04-30 18:08:11 UTC  

"Coup" has a negative connotation in most peoples minds

2019-04-30 18:08:33 UTC  

does revolution not?

2019-04-30 18:08:37 UTC  

no

2019-04-30 18:08:41 UTC  

Not normally no

2019-04-30 18:08:41 UTC  

huh

2019-04-30 18:08:49 UTC  

cool beans

2019-04-30 18:08:50 UTC  

"American Revolution"

2019-04-30 18:08:56 UTC  

Revolution is usually connected to a Freedom Movement

2019-04-30 18:09:05 UTC  

yeah that sounds negative to me lol

2019-04-30 18:09:08 UTC  

While Coup is connected to a Forcible Power Change

2019-04-30 18:09:33 UTC  

word games ey

2019-04-30 18:09:44 UTC  

@Beck kek, are you a dirty brit or is english not your first language?

2019-04-30 18:10:06 UTC  

piss off, im getting better

2019-04-30 18:10:13 UTC  

Also "Revolutions" are usually tied to the end being a Democracy
While "Coup" is usually seen as military Coups, and end in Totalitarian Dictatorships

2019-04-30 18:10:32 UTC  

While reality they should be interchangeable the connotations prevent it

2019-04-30 18:10:49 UTC  

what about proletariat revolutions?

2019-04-30 18:10:50 UTC  

so its literally just optics

2019-04-30 18:10:57 UTC  

sound bad to me

2019-04-30 18:11:28 UTC  

@galesteppes It would be Bad, but they use "Revolution" to make it sound good and grow support

2019-04-30 18:11:38 UTC  

i guess the difference is that people will often refer to themselves as fighting for revolution, as revolutionaries
nobody wants their government takeover to be called a coup

2019-04-30 18:11:39 UTC  

It would more be the Proletariat Rebellion

2019-04-30 18:12:42 UTC  

why dont we just use "Freedom Fighters" & "Bad guys"

2019-04-30 18:13:13 UTC  

because you need to hide your bias

2019-04-30 18:13:22 UTC  

otherwise the normies will be unconvinced by your propaganda

2019-04-30 18:13:34 UTC  

We use all of them. But you have to remember, One group can be called both, by 2 different viewpoints

2019-04-30 18:13:57 UTC  

It doesn't become set in stone until a winner is found

2019-04-30 18:15:09 UTC  

then whats a neutral term?

2019-04-30 18:15:35 UTC  

war

2019-04-30 18:15:45 UTC  

fighter