you have been fractured long before, however, "civil war when" has an answer of never.

Since like year 9 we've been fractured lol

@Aztec Sun God You go ahead and forcibly drag us into another interventionist war and threaten to toss out the lives of thousands of more US troops while you do nothing for your own country.

See what happens.

Pansy ass faggot, you've done nothing for our national defense.

I didnt say that, that's why you had to say it, because I didnt lmao.

You don't have to say it. It's the obviously outcome of what you suggest.

How naive do you have to be to think ANYONE in power wants to 'spread good will' via American tax dollars, US troops, and isn't a puppet of the military industrial complex?

See now you're getting angry at your interpretation of something I never said. You know literally nothing about me and are assuming a whole lot.

Nigga, you've been spending the last hour almost advocating for nation building.

odin was the sun and the moon

and sometimes his other eye was dark

most gods are sun

Ive spent the last hour arguing for government spending accountability and following through with the nation building they attempt

And my first point, was that nation building has NEVER been about the stability of a nation.

It has always been a scam.

Because if they start it and finish it itll be like japan but if they start it and leave before its done it'll make things worse. So do it or dont but finish the job

Get it out of your head that nation building has ever been out of charity

Who said its out of charity? Im saying we send money anyways, so dont send it to people you know are corrupt

japan had things right before the west intervened

@TwinVickers you mean when they were committing genocide against the chinese ?

yup

they had one goal as a nation

@Aztec Sun God Congrats, you've narrowed the list to everyone who DOESN'T need our financial help

imagine if nations worked like that today?

If nations worked towards one goal?

Thats hard to imagine cause that depends on the goal lol, goals can be good or bad so that doesnt say much

yeah, seems like most people are just revolting

that's irrelevant, whatever the god decides the nation does.

where are you in this scenario where you can add morality to the equation?

You want me to explain scientifically the existence of morality?

Thats an awful lot to ask someone to do lmao

you've accepted this scenario of nation working toward one goal under god, as the japanese did before the westeners. in that scenario, morality does not exist.

I'd probably have to just say I think Jordan Peterson probably got it correct if there is one.

you're the one who needs things explained retard

@TwinVickers I said unity could be better or worse depending upon what you're united behind

Dont put words in my mouth

i don't know when you said this

Well its a good thing you can still scroll up its not very far back

You said imagine if nations worked like that today

man go fuck yourself, you're deflecting and you know it

Im deflecting?

so i'm out

that is the fucking archetype of a deflection you moron