sorry, carry on.

@TwinVickers I was suggesting that Russia should flex more in its region and keep Iran in check, instead of us

I never disagreed

Didn't say you did

I said we should do the same in our region in south America

Its the same thing

Brazil can now

Oh i thought this was about why US and Russia can't get along.

Brazil isnt America and south america aint Iran

We don't have an iran in our hemispbere

you do by a connection to israel

🤦

you're denying that us and israel are allies?

Can we agree on this at least? Shits complicated.

Israel has the US in its hemisphere

it's not a damn conspiracy

I'm done.

Anyways, we're getting to a point in US politics where another huge national building project could potentially initiate a Civil War permanently fracturing us.

Its not as simple as fuck em do nothing cause they wont do nothing themselves. If they would I'd be perfectly cool with absolutely saying fuck it

you have been fractured long before, however, "civil war when" has an answer of never.

Since like year 9 we've been fractured lol

@Aztec Sun God You go ahead and forcibly drag us into another interventionist war and threaten to toss out the lives of thousands of more US troops while you do nothing for your own country.

See what happens.

Pansy ass faggot, you've done nothing for our national defense.

I didnt say that, that's why you had to say it, because I didnt lmao.

You don't have to say it. It's the obviously outcome of what you suggest.

How naive do you have to be to think ANYONE in power wants to 'spread good will' via American tax dollars, US troops, and isn't a puppet of the military industrial complex?

See now you're getting angry at your interpretation of something I never said. You know literally nothing about me and are assuming a whole lot.

Nigga, you've been spending the last hour almost advocating for nation building.

odin was the sun and the moon

and sometimes his other eye was dark

most gods are sun

Ive spent the last hour arguing for government spending accountability and following through with the nation building they attempt

And my first point, was that nation building has NEVER been about the stability of a nation.

It has always been a scam.

Because if they start it and finish it itll be like japan but if they start it and leave before its done it'll make things worse. So do it or dont but finish the job

Get it out of your head that nation building has ever been out of charity

Who said its out of charity? Im saying we send money anyways, so dont send it to people you know are corrupt

japan had things right before the west intervened

@TwinVickers you mean when they were committing genocide against the chinese ?

yup

they had one goal as a nation

@Aztec Sun God Congrats, you've narrowed the list to everyone who DOESN'T need our financial help

imagine if nations worked like that today?

If nations worked towards one goal?