Message from @Goblin_Slayer_Floki

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2019-06-12 07:10:55 UTC  

What specifically is not understood?

2019-06-12 07:19:53 UTC  

> Everything is slavery

Is that take

2019-06-12 07:20:39 UTC  

Survival is the base aim of every person regardless.

2019-06-12 07:21:41 UTC  

@Goblin_Slayer_Floki nope not everuthing is slavery. Yes survival is base aim.

2019-06-12 07:23:53 UTC  

> work without pay is slavery
> pay without work is slavery
> work for pay is slavery

What isnt?

If your job doesnt pay enough get a new one or you stop buying weeb shit

2019-06-12 07:24:18 UTC  

Let me rephrase

2019-06-12 07:24:45 UTC  

What REALISTIC thing isnt? Dont spout utopian bs here

2019-06-12 07:27:38 UTC  

@Goblin_Slayer_Floki work for higher pay but that implies higher value creation. Thus not everyone is capable of this.

2019-06-12 07:27:53 UTC  
2019-06-12 07:28:17 UTC  

Specialization and overcrowding of industries leads to lower economic standards

2019-06-12 07:29:14 UTC  

Speciliazation is also fed by overcrowding. Then as you are specialized you arelocked so simpl finding a better job doesnt fix it.

Yeah not buying weeb shit is hard when you are a weeb

2019-06-12 07:30:37 UTC  

That is a fallacy. Do better. Weebs dont choose it. It chose them due to circumstances of enviroent.

2019-06-12 07:31:03 UTC  

As your possibilities to maximize the sense o self worth dwindle a cheaper faster methods are pursuit.

2019-06-12 07:31:23 UTC  

I pity weebs but the cant just quit it. There is moe to be done.

2019-06-12 07:35:26 UTC  

Pay is dependant on work ability + product value + company profit margin as well as many other aspects...

But that is still working for pay. Ergo slavery, per your definition.

People are played based on job, not person itself 9 times out of 10. Being able to change jobs shows you arnt a slave.

Survival is a moronic point.

2019-06-12 07:36:02 UTC  

The arguement you gave is no different than the morons who argue for 15 minimum wage

2019-06-12 07:41:51 UTC  

@Goblin_Slayer_Floki i ll be back to reply i have to change transit now. I will clarify in a while.

2019-06-12 07:42:12 UTC  

Dont bother

2019-06-12 07:42:28 UTC  

I get your point. I just reject it.

2019-06-12 07:54:40 UTC  

I dont see how people are based on job and not on person 9 out of 10

2019-06-12 07:54:51 UTC  

Can you go in depth?

2019-06-12 08:05:26 UTC  

The pay for a job is primarily based on the following in no particular order:
1 skill level needed (and some cases can a lower skill do it or easily trained)
2 profit margin to afford employee
3 hours needed
4 availability of workers
5 demand for product
6 inter company competition
7 benefits given

There are many other things as well. Like Gov regs and so on but this was a simple overview of it.

2019-06-12 08:07:19 UTC  

The worker is only a small portion of this. That's why naturally (without Gov intervention) many jobs cap pay.

2019-06-12 08:19:38 UTC  

@Kali Yuga Nah nigga I chose to be a weeb, the weeblyfe didn't choose me.

2019-06-12 08:21:08 UTC  

A Canadian, Quebecois, and a weeb all at the same time

2019-06-12 08:21:25 UTC  

@GeorgyBoyo why did god punish you to be so gay?

2019-06-12 08:21:28 UTC  

Peak multiculturalism

2019-06-12 08:22:14 UTC  

@galesteppes why did god make japs and koreans so dang hot?

2019-06-12 08:22:34 UTC  

He didn't account for plastic surgery

2019-06-12 08:26:04 UTC  

@Goblin_Slayer_Floki the non slavery conditions are own farm, or working for yourself. Sadly neo keynesian capitalism just as late socialism allow for exploitation of the worker especiakky due to nepotism and tweedism. So firms maximize profits due to investors demands and inflation of currency at expense of workers as everything else is optimized maximally and the markets are saturated.

2019-06-12 08:29:25 UTC  

> own a farm or work for yourself

What about those who cant farm? Have no talent?

Where do you get your tools? How? Trade? What if the blacksmith doesnt need wheat?

All that will do is increase scarcity, as mass production grinds to a halt. As the moment you need more than 1 person working somewhere to produce something it collapses.


You basically just spewed out "wages is slavery" again, just in a condiluded way.

2019-06-12 08:31:02 UTC  

@Goblin_Slayer_Floki how would mass production halt due to scarcity increase? How does scarcity increase in this case? Can you clarify?

2019-06-12 08:32:03 UTC  

Scarcity will increase with the halt of mass production. Because the moment you declare corps/businesses and wages slavery a single person cannot maintain such levels.

2019-06-12 08:32:12 UTC  

Wages are slavery when you accept voluntatily job contract without alternative option that woyld normally give you bargaining power.

2019-06-12 08:32:25 UTC  

You always have more options

2019-06-12 08:32:27 UTC  

@Goblin_Slayer_Floki ah i see what you mean.

2019-06-12 08:33:04 UTC  

@Goblin_Slayer_Floki always have more options where? Which economy?

2019-06-12 08:33:13 UTC  

You just cant be stubborn and be willing to work harder above your station or below. Or willing to change fields completely