Message from @StevenStevens
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Anarcho Communism on paper is perhaps the closest thing to freedom
however unattainable
Freedom (in the way I assume we are talking about) doesn't mean being free from want or need, just free from the coercion and power of others. And yes it in its perfect form is unattainable
Anarcho Communism is way more free than anarcho capitalism for example
indeed
the market oppresses and forces people into actions not desirable, it's literally a loaded gun forcing people to be slaves while their bosses steal all their labour
The closest thing to freedom would be going out in the wild with no one else around and with no one else knowing nor caring about you
The yeah, we don't have anywhere close to the same definition of freedom
@-5K- a state of nature
One cannot be free while individuals profit from others work
I can't be free unless I have the ability to pay people for their work
Pay? Why'd you need to pay someone when there is no market?
You can still be free with others profiting off of your work if you voluntarily consent for them to do that
@Fitzydog An ideal government would be something close to the Paris commune
An ideal govt is one in which I have a giant wall around my town and I get to hang commies from crosses out front
The wall was only there because liberals don't like freedom of association
That makes zero sense but OK retard
I wish i was in the national guard
defending the commune
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You truly have no positions of your own, just a hodgepodge of memes in your low IQ head of yours, don't you?
As i said maximization of freedom
Liberation of all people
Abolishing the market
Abolishing land lords
You couldn't even define liberty
So you want a wall around your town, and yet you believe in freedom of association?
ok retard
Yeah, towns have rules, and if you want to live in the town, then you can associate with undesirable visitors OUTSIDE the walls.
How does this not make sense?
It's just a bigger house. You don't let your roommate/tenant stay up until 2am on a Tuesday partying, do you?
Sooo, people outside the town that want to associate with you guys can go fuck themselves then?
so much for freedom of association
Idk, what are the rules?
I guess it only counts if it's for you
Can I walk into your house?
I don't have to associate with you
YOu asked how your freedom interferes with another person's freedoms
so here's one example. Your freedom of association interferes with another person's freedom of association
what if I do (with you)
Then you get shot