Message from @Tero
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wheres the guarantee that UBI will be upheld for a long time
who puts out the guarantee that corporations capable of full automatization dont just fuck off
forget any income
the change of power dynamics is the real threat
well because they're socially responsible corporations and they don't mind paying 90% tax to prop up welfare serfs' pitiful existence
Yea what do stop a corporation to just not fuck off to a tax haven that don't give a rats ass about UBI
presumably that the jobless and starving people in that country will dismantle the factory for scrap, police be damned
and also who or what ascribes worth to people themselves?
right now its their necessity to operate things
i do sympathise with his motivations though in that automation poses a serious problem if you want people to keep existing..
in capitalism the reason people get money is because they can do things which provide positive value; if robots get better than people at everything, then why would you pay a person?
It a question with no easy answers.
and one where the wrong ones will cause irreparable damage
i guess you could go full amish
full amish might become a requirement π
unlikely though
or maybe semi amish
how many thriving hunter gatherer societies do you know of
Venezuela
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What I do personally believe is that the quest for a always increasing population is not a good idea in the long term. But a stable population is a better thing
its these kind of things that make you put on the tinfoil hat π€·π»
maybe the people who own the automation factories just let the masses of proles starve and live in a thinly populated paradise forever
which is why full amish is one possibility
if you cant contribute to "society" you cant make money
full amish isn't really a solution/option though
because a neighbour who goes the full automation route will stomp you for territory and resources
sounds similar to the plot of terminator
but yeah, who can govern something that cant be governed
maybe the proles of the world will unite as teddy K envisioned and smash all the machines, plunging us into a modern version of the bronze age collapse
think something like this happens in warhammer 40k but idk that much about the lore
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brown people and romanians
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yes tucker is pretty awesome