Message from @Fitzydog
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I would prefer to settle it peacefully because violence is the last resort of the incompetent.
I think there is a way to solve this with minimal bloodshed mostly through economic and political sanctions
More or less starve the ideology, the server thing the west did with Communism in the Soviet Union
Bloodshed is the only language they understand.
but the other location has not be revealed by the NK govt when pressed
pulling teeth but i guess baby steps are better than none?
like seriously nk just need to stop being a d1ck they will be left alone
most ppl these days dont care about what's going in other countries unless it's the western oppression or palestines dying as a martyrs
@Fitzydog
Not all Muslims are radicals. The same way not all the people in the Soviet Union where commies. All the west needs to do is educate people. And they will rise up against there governments. Well educate and pressure them.
@Shurik That's a false equivalency. Islam is not a government preventing people from escaping.
A similar comparison would be "Communism vs Socialism". Yeah, one is 'nice' and 'liberal', *but it still leads to death in the end.*
It is an ideology that indorenates people into its ranks and punishes any dissenters with death. It is almost identical in my eyes to communism.
Islam is an all incompasing religion. It includes governmental powers. Though they used to have a system where a tax allowed free worship. That has been all bjt abandoned
Communism was the religion of the Soviet Union
this is true
There's no 'liberal' Islam. Just Muslims who aren't pushy about wanting to eventually conquer your homeland.
Though the soviet union did have religious people
Even Russian Orthodox survived the soviets
I know plenty of Muslims that are decent people
I think Islam needs to reform like Christianity did
Most *decent* muslims are ex muslim or would be seen as apostates
not "true" muslims
Muslims who treat *kafir* nicely, are like Southern Baptists who treat gays nicely.
As well muslims are allowed to lie/cheat/steal from non muslims
Like I have as many qualms about islam as most of view but I view it in a different light. I think of Islam as a reskinned communism
Eh southern baptists evolved. It would be more like evangelicals who are ok with gays
And that somehow makes it better?
Either way: They may be nice to you, but they still 'pity' you
Islam as a teaching is more facist than communist however
and you bring it down the same way. Violence only forces them back into there ideological corner and they see violence as the only refuge, it dosen't help that there ideology supports violence
Their ideology was created by a warlord
off the basis of conquest
Non-violence only works with civilizations that value peace as a virtue
Nah
The very core beliefs are facist and violent
via cpnquest
The USSR didn't view peace as a virtue
we brought it down via economic pressure
@Shurik But the orthodox christianity that they were originally raised on did
The USSR brought itself down cause communism never works