That’s not to say many people can hold them though

If morals were universal we wouldn't have murderers and rapists.

I think nearly everybody can agree that murder without reason is morally wrong

I don't think murderers think murder is okay, I think they just do it anyway

@Giuseppe You disprove yourself. Nearly everyone =/= Universal.

Flight or fight response?

well obviously nothing is truly universal

You don’t know how the person will respond to you assaulting them

@Ned Did you know that a single punch is enough to kill a person?

The exception is not the rule

Would you punch a Nazi?

Or a communist?

So that risk of death, would that still be proportional?

If a nazi were walking me to a death camp I would punch him

Violence is only okay in self defense period there’s no opinion on that

Otherwise you are the provoker

Even if someone ends up seriously injured or even dead after throwing a milkshake at someone they had it coming

Proportion my ass

"Theres no opinion on that"

Don't put yourself in that situation

No beating a man to death is something else that’s manslaughter

@Ned So how is that different from our self-defense?

I think beating a man to death is straight up murde

Does god wear a powdered wig @SomeUser27

You'd defend yourself proportionally just like we did.

@Giuseppe Being a man to -death- is murder yes you are correct.

@Ned Then the courts decide if you took it too far.

No you assaulting someone is grounds for self defense

What is the law on self defence on the ukay

And I didn’t mean it literally btw it’s a point that you deliberately brushed over when I said I don’t condone violence

can i fucking rinse someone if he tries to mug me

but le context

@Giuseppe If a thief breaks into my house they just signed their death sentence anything that might happen is on them

Were the hypocrites<:shap:497652686603288576>

Sure man

I mean I have principles and you have your subjective morals

@Ned I think he means it in a more like, ah yeah I'd beat the shit out of someone. As in a casual context. So he probably means he'd punch the man or push him off of him and kick him but not murder the man. Not stomp the man to death.

@GeorgyBoyo yeah but what is the law on it

aren't principles and morals the same?

Some people have balls that doesn't make them hypocrites. Just because you wouldn't punch someone in the face for throwing milkshake at you doesn't mean everybody will do the same.

No. @Giuseppe