"Slow down. And move onto your next point. @buzzfeed jurno What is the line that is disproportionate. What do you do if someone throws a shake on you. What would you do?"

That one. @Ned

Some morals are universal

No morals are universal

Not really if I disagree with you @Giuseppe

It’s entirely subjective

@Mitikozuki are you absolutely sure about that?

That’s not to say many people can hold them though

If morals were universal we wouldn't have murderers and rapists.

I think nearly everybody can agree that murder without reason is morally wrong

I don't think murderers think murder is okay, I think they just do it anyway

@Giuseppe You disprove yourself. Nearly everyone =/= Universal.

Flight or fight response?

well obviously nothing is truly universal

You don’t know how the person will respond to you assaulting them

@Ned Did you know that a single punch is enough to kill a person?

The exception is not the rule

Would you punch a Nazi?

Or a communist?

So that risk of death, would that still be proportional?

If a nazi were walking me to a death camp I would punch him

Violence is only okay in self defense period there’s no opinion on that

Otherwise you are the provoker

Even if someone ends up seriously injured or even dead after throwing a milkshake at someone they had it coming

Proportion my ass

"Theres no opinion on that"

Don't put yourself in that situation

No beating a man to death is something else that’s manslaughter

@Ned So how is that different from our self-defense?

I think beating a man to death is straight up murde

Does god wear a powdered wig @SomeUser27

You'd defend yourself proportionally just like we did.

@Giuseppe Being a man to -death- is murder yes you are correct.

@Ned Then the courts decide if you took it too far.

No you assaulting someone is grounds for self defense

What is the law on self defence on the ukay

And I didn’t mean it literally btw it’s a point that you deliberately brushed over when I said I don’t condone violence

can i fucking rinse someone if he tries to mug me

but le context

@Giuseppe If a thief breaks into my house they just signed their death sentence anything that might happen is on them

Were the hypocrites<:shap:497652686603288576>

Sure man