Message from @Ondsinet

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2019-10-11 09:12:51 UTC  

haven't heard this in a while lol

2019-10-11 09:13:45 UTC  

If the immigrants are rich enough to fund everything why the fuck are they migrating?

2019-10-11 09:14:02 UTC  

they're poor af in their home country

2019-10-11 09:14:06 UTC  

they make more money in the new country

2019-10-11 09:14:09 UTC  

What the fuck

2019-10-11 09:14:10 UTC  

we can tax some of those gains off them

2019-10-11 09:14:18 UTC  

and they'll still be better off

2019-10-11 09:14:39 UTC  

You have to fund something before you make the profit. Not vice versa...

2019-10-11 09:14:52 UTC  

@24601πŸš„πŸ”°πŸŒ
1 why would the migrants pay taxes if there's no border to send them back if they dont.
2 The reason why migrants are cheap for corporation is because they already don't pay taxes + they need less Money as they just send most back to their families in the cheaper countries.
Again this is what happens in the EU with rumenia

2019-10-11 09:14:58 UTC  

what exactly am I funding?

2019-10-11 09:15:21 UTC  

I forgot you think the economy runs on Love and Prayers. My bad.

2019-10-11 09:15:25 UTC  

@Ondsinet 1. you can still put them in prison

2019-10-11 09:15:29 UTC  

Nvm they can pay I take it back.

2019-10-11 09:15:50 UTC  

@GeorgyBoyo I have no idea what you're trying to fund here. "the economy"?

2019-10-11 09:16:05 UTC  

Also my gdp comment was sarcastic fyi

2019-10-11 09:16:25 UTC  

@Ondsinet I don't take point 2. If their new wage - taxes < old wage they just won't migrat

2019-10-11 09:16:37 UTC  

@24601πŸš„πŸ”°πŸŒ so you have to pay for them in prison too?

2019-10-11 09:16:46 UTC  

I thought we were in the business of making illegals legal? The prison system??? Kek

2019-10-11 09:17:07 UTC  

the imprisonment would be for not paying taxes, not from illegally migrating

2019-10-11 09:17:11 UTC  

@24601πŸš„πŸ”°πŸŒ yeah I'm just saying that corporations will still hire them even in your world where their taxes should pay for everyone.

2019-10-11 09:17:25 UTC  

@Ondsinet okay? that's good?

2019-10-11 09:17:35 UTC  

@24601πŸš„πŸ”°πŸŒ without paying taxes

2019-10-11 09:17:41 UTC  

I'm not saying their wages would pay for all govt expenditure

2019-10-11 09:18:03 UTC  

just that they could be used to reimburse those natives who lose out because they can't compete with the migrants

2019-10-11 09:18:32 UTC  

Ok but then all you're doing is increasing joblessness

2019-10-11 09:18:50 UTC  

Since there is no margin if migrants have to pay the same taxes as naitves do now or more

2019-10-11 09:18:53 UTC  

immigration doesn't increase unemployment rates

2019-10-11 09:19:13 UTC  

Yes because now you also have the natives, without a job, being paid by welfare

2019-10-11 09:19:28 UTC  

And no gains since you tax the immigrants

2019-10-11 09:19:35 UTC  

it depends on how you issue the welfare

2019-10-11 09:19:36 UTC  

When Supply increases Demand also increases <:HonkHonk:566814473646768128>

2019-10-11 09:19:43 UTC  

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2019-10-11 09:19:54 UTC  

@Ondsinet the migrants pay for the prison bro, with their taxes <:high_iq:382980759012638731>

2019-10-11 09:19:57 UTC  

as long as you don't fuck up their EMTRs they're still incentivised to find more work

2019-10-11 09:20:08 UTC  

On the other hand, having no borders, there's no reason for the migrants to actually tell you they are there or pay taxes

2019-10-11 09:20:27 UTC  

No borders = No laws

2019-10-11 09:20:31 UTC  

nope

2019-10-11 09:20:42 UTC  

god I hope you make a decent point sometime Amirite

2019-10-11 09:20:53 UTC  

maybe you could leave it to Ondsinet ?

2019-10-11 09:20:55 UTC  

Yeah if you want migrants to be treated differently, you mean you want borders