Message from @vaibhav265

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2019-10-12 23:51:05 UTC  

Populism is essentially true democracy

2019-10-12 23:51:26 UTC  

we need to listen to what the elite wants as they "knows" what best for us

2019-10-12 23:54:20 UTC  

@Pope Pingu Correction, true LIBERALISM

2019-10-13 01:02:56 UTC  

SO my friend just told me what human rights are "human right implies simply by existing you deserve, ought not be denied, access too it(the right)." what do you guys think of this?

2019-10-13 01:09:54 UTC  

I think that's the commie version

2019-10-13 01:14:38 UTC  

Deserving I dont think so

2019-10-13 01:14:57 UTC  

But denying access is authoritarian

2019-10-13 01:15:13 UTC  

But then it also depends on denied what

2019-10-13 01:15:38 UTC  

I guess basic needs for human success

2019-10-13 01:16:08 UTC  

But I mean you can deny access to stuff like kiddy porn

2019-10-13 01:16:23 UTC  

That's not really a right

2019-10-13 01:17:06 UTC  

demanding other peoples stuff just becuse you exist, like what most commies does, then you can fuck off

2019-10-13 01:17:23 UTC  

@Stan Stump Well, I don't believe in human rights, I believe that you only have a right to that which you are willing to defend

2019-10-13 01:18:21 UTC  

what we call human rights in the west, have been carved out and defended with countless life's in the past

2019-10-13 01:19:09 UTC  

And in a state of nature, you would defend with your life the things that a normal person would state you have a right to

2019-10-13 01:21:32 UTC  

Well I mean you can't really defend if you're a slave in an authoritarian country

2019-10-13 01:21:45 UTC  

That's why we go to war for breaches of human rights

2019-10-13 01:22:25 UTC  

We can't exactly let the holocaust happen again because the people being oppressed can't defend themselves

2019-10-13 01:22:32 UTC  

only if they have oil they dont want to share

2019-10-13 01:22:39 UTC  

Amen

2019-10-13 01:23:33 UTC  

Ancapistan when?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/632750239736135690/EGtM4S2WkAU3pQN.png

2019-10-13 01:24:07 UTC  

Wasn't there a documentary about that

2019-10-13 01:24:18 UTC  

and holocasts have happend several times after ww2. it just that it did happen where we did not care about

2019-10-13 01:24:40 UTC  

Yeah

2019-10-13 01:24:51 UTC  

But that was after nukes were invented

2019-10-13 01:25:26 UTC  

Cant go invading commie countries with ussr threatening nuclear war

2019-10-13 01:25:35 UTC  

So sad

2019-10-13 01:26:12 UTC  

true. that and who cares about Africa in general

2019-10-13 01:26:38 UTC  

@vaibhav265 wait, so we can finally have IRL hunger games?!

2019-10-13 01:26:48 UTC  
2019-10-13 01:28:16 UTC  

Im sure the US government is going to ignore that and fuck over anyone that tries to steal their monopoly on legal murders

2019-10-13 01:28:33 UTC  

Oh if you talking about Africa. I mean we factory farm animals all the time

2019-10-13 01:28:37 UTC  

No need to worry

2019-10-13 03:34:19 UTC  

@Fitzydog As others have stated, not everyone is able to defend their rights. This does not justify taking them away. Sure you can argue that devoid of a civilized society, these people (disabled especially) would just die. But we don't live in that system, do we?

2019-10-13 03:36:15 UTC  

@EnderOctanus you think the republicans have a chance to unseat the current gov?

2019-10-13 03:36:59 UTC  

So why bother making any sort of distinction? Human rights in my eyes are basically the rights we have in the Bill of Rights, along with ethical things such as providing humane treatment to humans. Drinking water and food, not causing undue suffering, etc. I feel that that is a fair way to define human rights.

2019-10-13 03:37:13 UTC  

Unset?

2019-10-13 03:39:50 UTC  

I'm not sure what you're asking. I think there are just as many Republicans that are too invested in the way things are as there are Democrats. I think that Republicans are also really inept at governing in general. Some people argue that that is the point, an ineffective government being better than a competent corrupt one. I disagree. Sometimes that can be true but it's certainly not a rule.

2019-10-13 03:41:08 UTC  

Republicans also seem to be very happy to sit on power without trying to do anything to affect change while they are able to do so. That bothers me.